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MoMentum

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Sep 06, 2006 10:34 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi, New here...... I am a business major with 11 years experience working 8-5 in a trading environment...  While I have done well in my current career, I have always day dreamed and brainstormed about start-up ideas, business models, ect, longing to work for myself one day.  Over the years I have come up with some good (and some not so good) ideas and have seen at least two of my ideas put in play by someone else, and becoming highly successful.

The ideas have always flowed from my mind, and I am / always have been a creative thinker.... thoughts of creating my own business have come and gone over the years, ebbing and flowing depending on career developments, ie, new promotion / excitement in career, my mind would engage in the current career and I might go months  or even a few years without much entrapenural thought..... but as always, the creative ideas begin to flow as soon as I begin to feel less engaged as the new position / challenge begins to wear off... (I am currently in that career)

THE PROBLEM:

I believe I have come up with a business model / start up idea that is very valuable....it has so much potential that I am afraid to discuss it with anyone unless I am sure they will not be interested in "stealing it" or unable to act on it.  What few discussions I have had with these "non starter" types has always resulted in positive feedback, and universally:

1) Wow thats a great idea

2) "I would be interested in that" (as a customer)

and,

3) If you do it, let me know (would like to be in on it, but has no intrest / ability to start it themselves)

THE QUESTIONS:

1) How do I further develop the idea and get "professional" feedback without jepordizing my idea to someone else (obviously internet is bad choice)

.....can I copyright it as a business and also the model before operation?

SOME MINOR DETAILS OF MY START UP

1) HUGE MARKET....

>The start up of this business would require low capital (low barrier to entry)..... BUT, done right, a barrier to entry could be created via momentum,  I see the biggest challenge is not in start up cost, but in organizing and building to critical mass quickly and professionally. 

So, as my concern layed out above states, this Idea has high risk of takover / copy cat / ratting.... due to relatively low cost of entry... My strategy would be to roll out the buisness at once with great impact and "create" barrier with mass, trouble is, doing so would also lay the idea out to several people over say, 3 to 6 months before startup "roll out" occurs.....   First, I see starting the "core" of the business with 6 to 10 professionals, then the marketing phase and then rollout phase.... It is a business that creates ownership for others (franchise) and requires little time for those phase two owners, but would be highly attractive and rewarding.  Requires no manufacturing and little selling, because it sells itself!  It would be Internet based.  When I think about this Idea I see a current void / need and this idea fills that need.  Why it is not being done already, I cant understand, but its one of those "Someone will sooner or later"

THE QUESTION RE-STATED:  Can I copyright the idea / model before beginning the business ? Does copyrighting really protect my intrest ?   Does it (copyrighting) protect me enough to discuss it with oher like minded professionals (those who would be most likely to "steal" my idea in some fasion) ?

Thanks for your help !

 

TC

 

MoMentum2006-9-6 22:47:3
latoyaball

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Sep 06, 2006 10:56 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Can you help me start my own business?

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Latoya Washington
MiteyMite

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Sep 06, 2006 11:14 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi TC:  I`m not a copyright or patent person but yes, business methods can be protected- I believe they are called business method patents.  Be careful not to let out information without a confidentiality agreement in place.  Confidentiality contracts written by a lawyer should provide some recourse should someone leak the information.   I`m sure one of the trademark or patent experts here at SUN can point you in the right direction. 

Protect your idea and don`t be tempted to tell anyone, not a soul!  If you truly believe you are onto something- take the appropriate measures....ALL of the appropriate measures you must take to protect your idea while you are developing and for the future.  It costs a good buck but it will be worth it.  If I can offer any further advice you can reach me through this site. 

frndchps

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Sep 06, 2006 11:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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TC...Confidentiality Agreement. Then I would say...Trademark your name for it. Gives you six months to establish FirstUse in marketplace. Copywrite...very easy. Business Method Patent? that`s a new one to me. All said and done, Now ask around and take every valuable feedback as written down maybes to establishing yourself as the leader with this business. Send Me a Form Disclosure Statement to fill out, via E-mail. I`ll fill it out and send it back. Have it notorized and send it snail mail. I`ll send the signed copy back. Then you ask me e-mail anything you wish and I`m bound to Honor agreement and give you feedback without jeopardizing your information under penalty of Law. Protect Yourself, like the man said. First and foremost. Many people can help you brainstorm. Few people are trustworthy. CopyWriting alone is not safe without "Model Patent?" and TradeMark of Unique business name. You`ve had 11 years. Take 6 weeks if necessary and learn! Trading Environment? I have TRADESTINY.com, .net, .org , .us .  Happy Pickle To You!
MoMentum

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Sep 07, 2006 2:36 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Latoya,  I am new to entrapenurship, so Im not sure how much help I can give... Im sure many here have more experience with it.  My biggest strength right now is idea development (always has been).... So thats about all I caan offer, but you may not wish to share ideas and you should think twice about that anyway.   If you need help with anything specific or technical about starting a business, my help is probably limited.....  Good luck

MoMentum2006-9-7 2:38:17
DesignIdeas

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Sep 07, 2006 10:11 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Maybe trademarking and patenting your idea would work.

I think copyright is only for words... right?

Tony R

Design Ideas Marketing Associates

www.designideas.tv

 

amacgi1

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Sep 08, 2006 12:23 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi TC,

I think a confidentiality agreement is your best bet. Copyrighting, patenting, etc (if they are possible) will take time and  money best invested in getting your business off the ground.

Best,

Andrew



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patentandtrademark

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Sep 08, 2006 9:41 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Business names, as such, can NOT be protected under federal trademark law.  Business names can NOT be protected under federal copyright law.  Business names can NOT be protected under federal patent law.

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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
cugelert

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Sep 09, 2006 11:41 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Trust your gut instincts when it comes to when and if you should seek counsel.  It never fails.  And don`t forget the non-disclosure agreement.

If your afraid of competition, copycats, etc, then I hate to say this, but it will happen no matter how much money you dish out to protect yourself.  Thats life.

If I were you... I`d seize the moment.  Duplicate, duplicate, duplicate.  Because if you don`t, someone else will.  So stay ahead of them and make a name for yourself before copycats try to jump in.

2 cents...

jerik



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Cu Gelert - The Legend ... If you`d like to know the value of money, go and borrow some... It is especially hard to work for money that you`ve already spent, on things that you never needed... Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it!
Rambo4

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Apr 24, 2008 6:30 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have an idea but I would like to run it by a true entrepreneur before I go any further.  For competetive purposes I don`t want to disclose anything on the the board.  Here is my email bramberg@mailcity.com
 
Thank you for anyone who can help,
 
Rambo
 
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