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ed01

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Oct 09, 2008 3:35 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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ClarenceMiddleton, thanks for your input, but there are a few things you seem to be misinterpreting and a few things I may have left out.


I should also update you all on the thought process/planning I`m going through. I`ve come to the point where I might be willing to concede to not being a founder if other terms are negotiated in my favor. My only real concern isn`t necessarily recognition, but that eventually as the site becomes more successful, my share of the profits won`t reflect its success, but still be linked to a flat rate. I`m hoping that I can at least begin some kind of negotiation on that front. Ideally the agreement would take into account both the total profits  after expenses and the actual number of posts I do.


Also, to clarify, he most certainly did NOT pay me before it was profitable to do so. I worked quite a long time for free, and afterward for very little, with the agreement that if I worked for free or a small amount at the time, then I would get more as more came in. We`ve re-made that same agreement on several occasions. I made it very clear the first summer when things started getting rough that I would rather get a real job that paid more, but instead I would help him because there would be something in it for me later on.


Also, one of the things I often bring up is that I don`t want 50/50 partnership status. I just want partnership status. I know he`s technically done more and had more involvement, but I just want him to keep up his end of the bargain. I don`t expect 50%, just a percent. I invested a HUGE amount of time into this. Much of the time I didn`t leave the house more than once a week while he goofed around in photoshop.


Also, I haven`t linked the site because I`m trying to maintain a certain level of anonymity. I thought that would be obvious... I will say that it is a blog about a popular piece of technology.


On a lighter note, I`m working on starting up my own project. I don`t know how successful it will be yet or if I can pull it off, but I`m going to try.

CraigL

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Oct 10, 2008 3:03 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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RE: On a lighter note, I`m working on starting up my own project. I don`t know how successful it will be yet or if I can pull it off, but I`m going to try.

Now that`s terrific!!

Back at the start of this thread, you were so depressed it seemed you couldn`t imagine starting a new project that ever, ever, ever would be a success. :-)

Nobody, particularly entrepreneurs, has any sort of guarantee about success. If that were the main driver, then nothing in history ever would have changed. Life itself offers no guarantees, but the people who change the world are the ones who take risks.

The overall theme of this topic has been the conflict between the creative process and the engineering process. The two are supposed to work together, being two aspects of the overall creative event. But when they come into conflict, which is more important?

I`ll come down on the side of the basic creative mind and process. Most people can learn how to implement a production system. It`s a whole lot harder to learn how to be creative.

Start with the first step, don`t worry much about how successful you may or may not end up, and just take it a step at a time. The best of all things is a willingness to try!
CraigL2008-10-10 15:4:9
stonesledge

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Oct 10, 2008 5:29 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Great attitude about the situtation. Whe some one hands you lemons, make lemonaide!! Way to go!



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ed01

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Oct 10, 2008 5:31 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks, CraigL. Still, the thing is that while I do think it has a lot of potential if I do it right and really make an effort, I don`t think it has near the potential of this site, so I`m not giving up on this negotiation (as well as a few other personal reasons). My idea is a daily or weekly podcast.

Also, my negotiating situation got stickier recently. It turns out that we`re hiring another writer, and he`s from a very popular/successful blog owned by AOL. So far I`m not being replaced, but if I make a fuss my leverage is gone.
ed0110/10/2008 7:53 PM
CraigL

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Oct 11, 2008 2:44 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Exactly!

Believe me, I`ve been in your situation over and over again, when I was in the music business. There`s just no comparison at all to owning your own "thing." It may not ever be "as successful" as what you leave, a big show, a big company, whatever, but the personal satisfaction is worth a lot.

There`s no real way you can know ahead of time what will happen. There are countless examples of companies, bands, shows, etc., that had a magical combination. Change one person and the show disappears.

Think of the many TV shows you`ve followed. Then they make a change to the cast, and it just isn`t quite as good. They make another, and before you know it, the show`s off the air. Low ratings.

But on the other hand, you also can`t predict if your new project will be exponentially more successful. The fact that you even HAVE a project puts you way ahead of the game, relative to so many people who can only wish they had an idea and knew how to get it started.

All in all, you should take what`s happened, study it, learn from it, and remember it. :-)
CraigL2008-10-11 2:45:31
ed01

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Sep 24, 2009 2:42 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Follow-up thread located here. (Sorry for the unnecessary bump...)

mcmiller996

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ould a person draft several paperwork collectively as a collaboration arrangement? Like that in the event the web site can acquire big, you`d use a situation which you`re a president and/or companion.

Or even, after that abandon. In the event that you`ve recently been composing that much, you might like to look at a profession as a writer. You might be a freelance author, content composer, or even be in university yet modify majors toward vocabulary and communications. You might probably do well as an manager, copy-editor, self-employed manager or correspondent.

A person probably should give up right now, I do believe, every further work you add in to the web site, depending on your posting, won`t generate virtually any return to suit your needs. When the site`s going to get big, however requires a a bit more moment, next should you abandon presently there won`t be anymore content. At that time, actuality will certainly arbitrate as well as display who`s done just what regarding development.

A similar thing occurred in my experience inside a band, as soon as, and I discovered a difficult session. Whenever everyone`s out of cash, everyone`s buddies. However when the money commences pouring inside, friendship begins to accept various explanations.

Alternatively, I really believe which earlier a particular age, perhaps Fifty, individuals tend to realize that interactions will be more beneficial than cash. Regrettably, from Twenty, all of us don`t actually understand that price of relationships too.





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