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Sep 09, 2006 11:00 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I was wondering how often Google, or other search engines, are indexing your site?

Its rather easy to see when the last time Google indexed your site.

GoTruckStop.com was last indexed Sept.7th.

BoxerHaus.com was last indexed on Aug.27th.

How about you?

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Sep 09, 2006 12:21 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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TJG,

Google ususally hits my site once a day, sometimes twice.  Yahoo and MSN hit it more often.  However, some of my client`s sites only get indexed once every other week.

Steve


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Sep 09, 2006 3:30 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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TJG,

Google ususally hits my site once a day, sometimes twice.  Yahoo and MSN hit it more often.  However, some of my client`s sites only get indexed once every other week.

Steve

I`m sure you are correct ....

But when I "googled" "freshyields.com" and right clicked to show me the "cached snapshot of page" ... Google shows it was last cached on Sept 4th. (great job). Your blogs page shows the same thing.

So.... what does all this mean?

 

Sep 09, 2006 4:08 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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As to indexing, Google tends do it for the "home base" (my company site)
around once a week. Yahoo! used to be once every couple of weeks, but
lately (past few months) they`re very good and have changes in their cache I
made yesterday.

From what I know from talking to some search specialists in the know,
caching is much more a function of (mostly) how often you update your
page (I`m sure page rank has something to do with it too), as, like on my
site, there are googlebots and Yahoo! Slurps coming by every day.

I have to admit that I almost never used the "cached page" when looking at
search results - the only time is when I`m looking for a controversial page
from somewhere that has been pulled down for whatever reason.

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Sep 09, 2006 4:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Sorry, I misspoke a bit.   Google visits everyday, but doesn`t cache the page unless it has been updated.  Here is for the month of September, to date.
9 different robotsHitsBandwidthLast visit
MSNBot153761.97 KB09 Sep 2006 - 13:45
Inktomi Slurp116332.80 KB09 Sep 2006 - 13:22
Googlebot94251.42 KB09 Sep 2006 - 08:55




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Sep 09, 2006 5:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Let me put forth another question.

Why are blogs and discussion forums like SuN or Truck.Net`s Roundtable indexed more often than traditional web sites?

What can I do for a traditional web site ... to have it indexed (not just visited, but also cached) as often as a blog or forum?

 

TJG2006-9-9 17:16:8
Sep 09, 2006 5:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Quick answers to the best of my ability -

Number 1 and most important) Update/change your content often. New
products, rotate your featured products, etc. After all, the search engines
are looking for change. It`ll take them a little bit, but their algorithm will
figure out that you`ve got regular changes going on.

2) Pagerank has something to do with it. It`s a mysterious quality, but it
improves with time and the more people that link to you and the quality
of their links (for instance, link farms or pages have been pretty much
thrown out of the recent revisions of the algorithms, as I understand it).

3) Completely unscientifically and anecdotally. when I place a search ad,
things tend to move quicker. This is probably because the engine checks
the page for it being valid and relevant when the ad is placed - or at
least, thats the logic I can apply to it.

Hope it helps!

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Portage Media Solutions
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My Blog: http://www.interactivemediatips.com
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Sep 09, 2006 6:04 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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digitalvision is correct, as far as I know.  As for his third assertion, I think that if you are a google client, you might get treated a little better.  Yahoo does this with their ecommerce stores it host.  

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Sep 09, 2006 6:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There was a great article about this one another forum, sorry I cannot remember which.

Other things to do are press releases (prleap.com/prweb.com) and write articles (isnare.com). This creates links and creates additional content for search terms on the internet. If you pepper your releases and articles with youe keywords, you will see it impact your position....LOL, or you make knock #1 off their position, either way not a bad deal. It takes time and lots of writing. If you can do some kind of release everyday that is what changes positions.

Google denies giving preference to their customers in terms of rank. Do the sponsored search. Use google and msn.

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Sep 09, 2006 6:46 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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(Number 1 and most important) Update/change your content often. 

New products, rotate your featured products, etc. After all, the search engines
are looking for change. It`ll take them a little bit, but their algorithm will
figure out that you`ve got regular changes going on.

That`s it !! If you`ve noticed the successful e-commerce sites change their featured products often (monthly atleast).

Secondly, if you have the ability to change the order of your products within the store ... Google and others treat those order changes as though they are .html changes.

That is the main reason why GoTruckStop.com has continued to maintain its  rankings ... even when we closed the front page. We experienced an increase in sales when we closed the front page .... demonstrating that the search engines had indexed the site via the .cgi pages ... not just the .html pages.

In the next month or so ... we might even have more exciting news about how GoTruckStop.com does things.

Good Luck everyone !!

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