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robertj

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Feb 20, 2007 1:35 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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While I am not an attorney - I have been delaing with the NDA situation for a number of years.

I agree that the execution of one is an indication of intent. However, what is important to remember is that having an NDA -doesn`t automatically mean you are protecting your valuable intellectual property and it doesn`t cover "everything" you say and do.

Generally, to be effective, the disclosing party must (clearly) identify the "secrets" that are covered.

 



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katt33

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It gives me the power of an established firm saying that the business ideas etc... are mine and the plan based on those ideas can not be used, shared etc... without explicit permission from both parties.  Violation, as they get 2% royalties from revenues, would jeapordize them, so they will take action if necessary.  The investors, whom they have worked with for a number of years know this clearly.  I have found that getting any investor to sign anything with strong legal or other backup is tough.  The ownership of the business and the product line name etc.. it`s all to be trademarked etc... in my firm`s name only, so no dangers there.
Mitchell

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Feb 27, 2007 2:36 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Here is how this works.

Document 1 - your term sheet.  You disclose only as much to get interest.  You have to decide who you want to work with and who you want to trust.  Keep in mind some investors may also be your exit strategy, so an investor who also has market presence may not be a bad thing. 

Document 2 - confidentiality agreement.  This is a prerequisite to your private placement memorandum.  I have never seen a PPM offered without one signed. 

Document 3 - Private Placement Memorandum.  The securities laws say you must disclose all material information to your investors - hence the requirement for number 2. 

There it is.  Call or write if you have any questions.

Best of luck

Mitchell

 

 

 



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EventOne

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Feb 28, 2007 2:43 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Investors or Members?  An LLC can have many membership levels, and do call them ‘members’ not ‘investors’ unless your company is actually underwritten and issuing pubic stocks.  It is illegal for an non-public company to sell shares to the general public.


I think a membership agreement can cover most worries and concerns about intellectual property.  If the potential member is looking for a “Money-in/Money-out” sort of deal, then they probably really want to work with a stock exchange instead.  Potential members of any start-up LLC have to understand that they may not see any return for years, if ever.  It is a high risk on their part, yet if they believe in your company and you then getting their investment should be no problem. You can also structure your membership to be non-voting or voting and your LLC can be managed by a manager or by the members. 

 

I also recommend any startup business who is looking for investors to read up on the SEC laws.

 

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JohnCorey

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Apr 10, 2007 3:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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An NDA is part of the dance. Signed or not, it is almost ritual. Not something to stake your business on. Just something that is an attempt to show that you care about the ideas.

Many investors have good reasons not to sign. Investors have good reasons to keep the secret sauce secret.

Dance well and sweep them off their feet. Execute well and you will not have to test the NDA in a court.
Apr 19, 2007 3:51 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Ideas are generally free...execution is where you`ll win.  If you can prove you can execute then investors or partners will not try to build your business.  I doubt any investor or competitor will sign an NDA.  But it`s always worth a shot.

Sirk002

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Apr 24, 2007 5:46 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have enforced an NDA against a Company that took my ideas and one of my key employees after our discussions about a potential JV.  The NDA didn`t prevent the damage from happening.  But when I found out, after the fact, I was able to use the NDA to achieve a favorable settlement.

While it is true that investors will often refuse to sign NDAs, I find that just presenting it does two things.  It establishes that I have something that is worth protecting (and therefore investing in) and also it opens the discussion of confidentiality and intentions.  I have walked away from deals because of the details that I found out while discussing an NDA.  I`d rather have that conversation and know about my potential investor`s conflicts ahead of time than after the fact.


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