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DaleKing

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Jun 16, 2008 6:53 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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One piece of Advice I can give is that you should measure your web traffic in total numbers.  This is probably the most important selling point for you.  What you will need to come up with are not only average Monthly hits to the websites (total hits) but also how many unique visitors you have to your site.  As the traffic increases so do your prices.
 
 
 
Hits are a meaningless metric for measuring traffic. The only metric for measuring traffic that really matters is unique visitors.
 
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 Hits are a meaningless metric for measuring traffic. The only metric for measuring traffic that really matters is unique visitors.
Dale King"
 
 
in addition to unique visitors, advertisers find the following metrics important (and constantly ask for):
  •  page views
  • share of voice that their ad campaign will have
  • demographics of visitors
  • specific site sections that will match their target/criteria best
hope this is helpful.
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One piece of Advice I can give is that you should measure your web traffic in total numbers.  This is probably the most important selling point for you.  What you will need to come up with are not only average Monthly hits to the websites (total hits) but also how many unique visitors you have to your site.  As the traffic increases so do your prices.
 
 
 
Hits are a meaningless metric for measuring traffic. The only metric for measuring traffic that really matters is unique visitors.
 
Dale King



To people who run the site?  Perhaps.  But when you`re selling, the person offering advertising has to use whatever statistical analytics available to them and are attractive to potential advertisers.  That`s why not only total hits and unique visitors are used.  Advertisers can get a good ratio of what quality of traffic comes to the given site.  For example if a site says they have 2 million hits but only 20K unique visitors that would tell advertisers a site gets a lot of junk traffic (Rogue Bots, image stealers, etc) .  However, if a site advertises 2 million hits and 1.5 million unique visitors they would jump all over that statistic and purchase advertising.


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I`m not on gAnalytics yet Rich but did read about that on your marketing a website piece yesterday. I`ll definitely check that out and figure out the junk visitors vs the unique ones as well. This is Awesome thanks All I appreciate it!

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To people who run the site?  Perhaps.  But when you`re selling, the person offering advertising has to use whatever statistical analytics available to them and are attractive to potential advertisers.  That`s why not only total hits and unique visitors are used.  Advertisers can get a good ratio of what quality of traffic comes to the given site.  For example if a site says they have 2 million hits but only 20K unique visitors that would tell advertisers a site gets a lot of junk traffic (Rogue Bots, image stealers, etc) .  However, if a site advertises 2 million hits and 1.5 million unique visitors they would jump all over that statistic and purchase advertising.

 
this makes a ton of sense to me and dovetails with my experiences dealing with advertisers.


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Jun 16, 2008 7:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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share of voice that their ad campaign will have


"Share of voice" meaning how many other advertisers are rotating in the available slots?
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in addition to unique visitors, advertisers find the following metrics important (and constantly ask for):
  •  page views
  • share of voice that their ad campaign will have
  • demographics of visitors
  • specific site sections that will match their target/criteria best
 
 
 
You`re talking apples and oranges. My exact quote was "Hits are a meaningless metric for measuring traffic. The only metric for measuring traffic that really matters is unique visitors." Any advertising consultant worth his or her salt will tell you pageviews are not nearly as important for measuring traffic as unique visitors. Knowledgeable advertisers don`t pay for pageviews. At least the advertisers I know don`t. They pay for actual visitors. 
 
Furthermore, demographics is a metric used to identify consumer segments and markets - not measure number of visitors to your website. Specific site segments is also not a measurement of how many people visit your website..
 
Obviously, those other elements are important. But not as it relates to actual number of visitors, which is the only argument I was making.  My answer pertained only to measuring the actual number of visitors to your website. Not the type of visitor or where they go once they get to your site. 
 
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"Share of voice" meaning how many other advertisers are rotating in the available slots?

 
 
 
No. Paula, Share of Voice is the total percentage that your company spends to promote your business to a particular audience. For example, suppose $10 million in advertising is spent overall by graphic designers in your industry, and you spent $1 million to promote your business. Theorectically, your Share of Voice would be 10% of the industry.
 
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Ah, got it. Thanks.
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I asked this same question about a year ago. Everyone has there own opinion. I personally think it depends on the traffic. I have community type websites, www.myaviationpage.com and www.mywellnessspace.com with my situation it depends on how many members I have and how often they interact on the site. Personally I would figure out the marketing formula first, get the people to the site then figure out how much to charge.
 
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