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gcompc

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Apr 26, 2008 12:02 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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JenB,

I was in the same position with my product and didn`t want to spend money on something that may have been only worth somethong to me. I wanted to do it all myself either because I didn`t know better or thought it would be a breeze. I purchased a book called Patent It Yourself by the NOLO company, can`t remember how much it cost (2004). It was very thorough and if you have the patience, time and able to afford attention to detail it can be done.

The whole process took me approx 6 months. The two main points that I can stress and that would have saved me time is you will have to spend money on professional patent drawings and you must be willing to deal with the Patent Office. There is red tape you`ll have to deal with and you will get rejected by the office until corrections are made or more detail is needed, improper wording correctied (claims), and various other info corrections the examiner may not like are corrected, you`ll want to give up but the book covers everything from evaluating your idea, dealing with Patent Office rejections to final patent submission and acceptance and then what to do with your patented product. I don`t work for the company or sell their products, all I know is the book helped me get a design patent with minimal amount of money spent.

patentandtrademark

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Apr 26, 2008 4:07 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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design patents are generally easier.
 
it is possible to buy books and learn to speak a foreign language.  it ain`t easy.


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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
Innovator7

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Apr 26, 2008 4:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There`re exceptions to every "rule" especially when the "rule" is just personal experience.

I know at least two cases where the patent attorney botched the prosecutions and the applications rejected after 3-4 years and probably $100K of attorney fees.

How do i know?  One was my invention, the other was my potential competitor`s invention.  The latter works perfectly but the patent attorney didn`t understand electronics enough to do an adequate job.

Those two cases are actually good for me, as my later patent application - pro se, sir - cruises thru the process.  Not even my potential patent attorney had anything to say about my claims, very broad, very short.

Like I said, there`re exceptions.

Innovator74/26/2008 4:28 PM


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patentandtrademark

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Apr 27, 2008 5:31 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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we agree.  some people can learn calculus or japanese with a book and an empty room.  others won`t learn with even the best teacher - and blame the teacher at the end.

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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
Innovator7

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Apr 27, 2008 1:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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BTW, I`m your big exception, James, as I speak several languages too.  I did learn English and calculus etc... from books in an empty room all by myself when I was young.  My parents gave me no pocket money so I had to make do.

I also read "Patent it Yourself", "Oregon Revised Statutes", California Corporate Laws, MPEP, patents from USPTO and EPO databases, and all the other bad stuff
Innovator74/27/2008 2:34 PM


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