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CraigL

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Jan 28, 2007 2:01 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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How come nobody`s focusing on this being the only client for the company, and they`re making the demands? A friend of mine is a graphic designer, building store displays. He won a number of awards, and decided to go out on his own.

He left his company, started his own, and was 1 person. Then he got this one, really big client. They needed rush work, important work, and so my friend hired an employee, then another. All great...for about 5 years.

One day that single client decided, "enh...we`re gonna go with someone else." My friend had been so busy trying to meet the deadlines, he`d never gone out and built up other clients. He had no diversification in clients. And so, within only half a year, he was done and had to go get a job working for someone else.

Happens a lot, and I know at least two other entrepreneurs who ended up in the same situation. BrandAlchemy is right, albeit perhaps not the most diplomatic of spokespeople. It`s YOUR business, not the client`s. If you can`t afford to hire someone, get a different client or *tell* the client that you have a growth rate.

If they really really really want what you`re selling, let THEM pay for the first employee, contractor, or whatever word you want to call it.
BrandAlchemy

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Jan 28, 2007 3:24 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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How come nobody`s focusing on this being the only client for the company, and they`re making the demands?

CraigL: If you`ll look back at Page 1 of this thread, this is exactly the first thing I mentioned.

`BrandAlchemy is right, albeit perhaps not the most diplomatic of spokespeople.`

Thanks for the <backhanded> compliment, and nice use of the word `albiet`. However, as I said in my responses prior, we covered all of these points. It was only when the equity idea was presented that things got a little heated. I believe I`ve already apologized for that in "What I learned in 2006".

And for what it`s worth, while I`m working on my online tonality, etc., I don`t recall that being a need of the questioner - just good advice, from first-hand experience, not a friend-of-a-friend story.

I don`t ever apologize for tough advice in tough situations. Just because a person posts like, 12 times a day on this forum, doesn`t make them the minister of information.

CraigL

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Jan 28, 2007 7:01 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Jeff :-)
Note that I did use the word "focus." Yes, I saw the previous post about the client taking control of the company through the project. I was just interested to see that it was sort of noted and discarded. To me, it`s the crux of this particular problem. Hiring a first employee, on the other hand, isn`t quite the same thing.

I don`t like this modern reference to people as "resources," but I understand how it came about. Employees do have to be accounted for as a cost of doing business, so when the company can afford employees, that`s when they hire.

I also understand that there`s that difficult "leap of faith" moment, where as someone else said, "if you hire you`ll get the work." But this thread began to revolve around 1 specific example, and in that particular (and in my reading of it), it reads more like "Should I let my key client tell me what to do?"
BrandAlchemy

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Jan 28, 2007 8:52 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig: Good points, all of them.

I started my reply with the `all eggs in one basket` observation because it is a killer, and very real, issue many of us face. One big client is better than none, but anytime my income is dependent on one client anywhere north of 20%, I get nervous. To mix metaphors, one in the hand is worth two in the bush, but not if the one in your hand is the only one in your basket. Maybe that`s a better Easter analogy, I don`t know...

We`ve all heard the statistics for startup success: 95% fail within five years, and the two top reasons are under-capitalization and growing too quickly. The first seems obvious, although economics 101 (the day they hand out the syllabus) is the rule of scarce resources. The second seems completely counter-intuitive. The real issue, i believe, is not getting one`s ego wrapped up in their business. In other words, so what if you have five offices versus one? Does that make you a bigger deal, or a quicker casualty.

A lot of this startup stuff is emotional and goes back to our very core as people.  I experienced a fair amount of inactivity and paralysis in getting Brand Counsel, LLC off the ground. I wasted weeks and weeks. When I finally was honest with myself, the core issue was that I didn`t believe that I was worthy of a successful firm, so I was goofing off. Once I reframed that issue as having been in my industry for a long time and having worked for firms with much less intelligence and resourcefulness as I had, I blew out the blockage and got busy.

One issue down the road, after the first clients get in the stable, is when to fire a client. Also, knowing when to walk away from bad business - i.e. overly-demanding clients, getting beat up over price, clients trying to commoditize your services and gaining leverage over you - is a skill worth untold value. 

At the end of the day (or better yet, at the beginning of the day when you have the energy), the real, underlying issue is: Do you know passionately that if a client does not do business with you, they`ll be doing themselves a disservice?
Are you the best in your industry? This isn`t a rah-rah motivational thing, but a true objective test. If you truly are (or can become that with training, resources, time, etc), then client demands turn into client requests. Or even better, if you`ve truly anticipated demand and your unique positioning, you call all the shots and they just write the checks.

Have you ever asked yourself, `I wonder if my client ever beats up his attorney for rates, or his CPA, or his doctor?`. Of course not. That would be silly. But we let them do it to us (or otherwise make unreasonable demands) and we go along with it just to `have some business`. The only thing more valuable than your equity is your time, and that`s the one resource none of us can ever recover.

So go out there tomorrow morning, my Startup Nation friends, with an attitude of confidence, resolve, a wealth mindset, and serve the hell out of your clients better than anyone in your field. Sooner than later, it will be you making the demands, not them.
CraigL

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Jan 28, 2007 9:11 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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"When to fire a client?" That`s the other side of the coin to hiring and taking on more debt.

Jeez...is this ever overlooked! But I think it`s partly that human nature of ego you`re referencing, and partly desperation. I remember when I thought about starting an IT consulting business. My father recommended a book (name escapes me), and one of the major arguments involved pricing.

When we`re starting out, we have no money and bills to pay. We initially have no clients, no business, so the first thought is to lower prices. Instead, raising prices more often works, given the credibility concept.

The underlying point is that wanting to hire isn`t necessarily driven by wanting more offices and employees. In this thread, it seems more that here`s "success" just within reach---the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow---and it only requires handing over control to the client. But the business doesn`t see it that way.

There`s a thread talking about how simply ignoring the word "failure" makes it vanish from reality. But "failure" is the empty set of success. Without the measure of failure, we wouldn`t know success. So too, "firing the client" is related to "hiring more staff"

We also have topics about how entrepreneurs fall in love with their product and neglect the rational analysis of there being a market for that product at all. I see a connection here, in that people get so caught up in "growing the business" and "thinking big," they "fail" to understand that reality actually exists. :-)

Not ALL potential clients are suited to a single business. I once, long ago, asked a question: "Just because you can do something, should you therefore do it?"

How to determine when to fire a client, versus when to hire on more staff, I think is the bedrock issue of this topic, but probably too complex for a forum. Unless my not being an MBA; I`ve missed the mathematical business formula for making an objective calculation.
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