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edwho

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Dec 17, 2007 4:43 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I am soliciting advice from the experienced members in this forum.  My previous employer has contacted with a generous offer to return to work for them.  My departure from the company was amicable and handled with very professionally by both parties.
 
My problem is that I don`t know that I want to commit all of my time to this startup.  I am very good at what I do and made an excellent salary with my previous employer.  I left only to pursue my desire to start a company where I could ensure that all my customers received excellent service.  I was very excited during the beginning and throughly enjoyed the work involved in setting up the business, getting financing, and setting up my internal procedures to provide my service.
 
I have recently completed my first trip with a previous customer and it went very well.  The client was happy and everything worked as planned.
 
I unfortunately, do not feel the same fire now that everything is in order and ready to go.
 
I am married with 2 young daughters (2 and 10).  I have been fortunate to have spent a lot of time with them, but feel that this new endeavor will take up a considerable amount of my time with them.  We are financially in a position where I can continue working on my business full time.  My wife supports me and is all for me continuing on track.
 
My concerns are as follows:
1-I have been the primary earner for our entire marriage.  I am having trouble getting over the reduction in my contribution (currently I`m not drawing a salary - and reinvesting money into the business).
2-We have private health coverage, but it is not the same level that my family has been accustomed to.  (generic meds over name brands - and other deductible)
3-I am currently working from a home office, and am having difficulty adjusting to the fact that I have no coworkers to bounce ideas off of or to just take a break with.
4-My business is in aviation and requires that I be available 24hrs a day whenever I have an aircraft in the air.
5-MOSTLY - I am a social person and enjoy working around others.  I have realized that I am much more conservative than I previously believed and really enjoy the STABILITY and SECURITY afforded by working for a large corporation.
 
The downside of returning to my company is that Ill be back to working for someone, instead of myself.  While the offer is generous, my possible revenues from owning my own business are much higher than they could ever be with my previous employer.
 
I know that many of you with wonder what I`m complaining about and wont see a "problem" here - but I`m hoping some of you have been in this position and could possibly share your experience and advice with me.
 
Thank you in advance for your advice/comments.
 
eduardo
 
winston2

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Dec 17, 2007 5:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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After reading you posting I feel it would be best for you at this time to return to your old job and take advantage of everything they have to offer for the time being. I am nervous about the economy, I hate to see you miss your children growing up. Nothing is harder on a marriage than a shortage of income and being away all the time. Also with a young family good health insurance is important, and think how wonderful it is to pick up your pay check every week with out worrying about it.
 
Also you said the fire is out, you would like to work with others, and you enjoy the stability and security working for a large corp. etc.
 
I don`t mean for you to give up your dream, I just don`t want you to pay too large a price for it.
I can see you are an intelligent person and I am sure you will make the right decision.
If I can help in any other way let me know, I have been through it for 35 years.
Martin
winston212/17/2007 5:46 PM
CraigL

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Dec 17, 2007 8:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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This is SUCH a classic situation, and although many people write about it, I`m not so sure the volume of material takes into account the underlying emotional risks and analyses. It doesn`t seem so, in my opinion.

On the one hand we have the entrepreneurial and individualistic rally, "Follow your dream! Be who you are! Do your own thing!"

On the other hand, we have practical reality, and the mind-numbing, exhausting battle of constant stress, anxiety, and near-zero predictability that comes with starting a new business.

In between, pouring gasoline on the fire, there`s the seemingly constant proclamation in the media and online that people who start their own business quickly become successful, become millionaires, lead the life of luxury, and spend the rest of their time on the beach.

As a philosopher, and having studied an awful lot of material over the years about life and stuff (technical term), I`ve concluded that as simple as it may sound, there`s really only one benchmark. It`s that life *ought to be* fun!

When you strip away all the $100 words, high-falutin` language, complicated history, and theoretical analysis, you`re left with the bottom line: If you`re not having fun doing what you`re doing, then ONLY you should decide what to do next!

One major caveat to this principle is that you also have to live with yourself when you look in the mirror, or can`t sleep at two in the morning. If you`ve really and truly given it your best shot, it isn`t working, and you`re not at all having any kind of fun, then stop! Go do something else! If that`s taking some security for awhile, working for someone else, then there`s nothing intrinsically wrong with that decision.

Sometimes we need a break to re-think an idea, come up with a different idea, or to see if there`s a different way to put an idea into action. Other times, it just isn`t "the right time" in terms of market awareness, market valuation, or historical context.

There`s nothing to say that you can`t come back to what you wanted or intended a bit later in your life. People start businesses in their 20s all the way through into their 80s. But life isn`t supposed to be about nausea, pain, misery, and heartache!
winston2

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Dec 17, 2007 10:52 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Another thing to remember is you have created a business that has value. Even if you have only been doing this for a few months or years you have developed a salable product. There are a lot of young men like yourself that might love the business you started and would be happy to buy it or go partners with you. You said your customer was happy then, sell those customers to someone else, train them and walk away with enough money to pay you for the time and energy you have put in.
You may feel it isn`t making much money yet so why would someone want to buy it. Don`t worry about that there is always some one that wants to buy a good idea. 

Martin

 

CraigL

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Dec 18, 2007 12:17 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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And let`s not forget to add in to the mix the idea that we never know what`s the point of anything, while we`re doing it. But in retrospect, looking back from at least 6 months, we can see a pattern emerge. Oftentimes, what seems trouble, wrong, pointless, or just stressful turns out to be a critical learning time, where we pick up skills and insights that make it possible to take advantage of a future opportunity.

In other words, as the sages have said (and the Parsleys, Rosemary, and the Thyme family), "you may not like where you are at the moment, or think you should be there, but you`re exactly where you`re supposed to be."

CraigL2007-12-18 0:17:54
Nuevolution

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Dec 18, 2007 3:48 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Edwho,
It is normal for you to feel that way. I been in business for myself for over 5 years now and I am also a father. May I say that at one point after my 2nd daughter was born, I went and got a job only to find out that "I didn`t want to be a "yes man" anymore and I walked out one Friday and never went back.
I think you are scare of failing.. correct me if I`m wrong. You are dwelling on the past and your weekly check (security).
Along the way Edwho, as a business owner you will find many challenges, many of them are good and other`s are bad. But in the end, it`s those challenges / experiences that teach you how to deal with customers (you establish your policies) and you request that they follow them.

It`s OK to feel bummed out at times... But look deeper inside of you, and if it was meant for you to be a business owner follow your dream... money will follow... we all need to sacrifice something to make it where we want to go.
If starting a busines was easy, there would be no such a thing as workers...
My advise would be to give yourself at least 6 months to see if things get better for you.





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Edgar Monroy
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When starting your own business the need to "know-how" is greater than money!
http://www.nuevolution.net
winston2

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Dec 18, 2007 10:51 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Edwho,
I agree with a lot that Nuevolution has to suggest. You are just tired, frustrated, etc. but that is not the case, you are back from a customer success, you have the financing you need and more importantly your wife is behind you. yet you are not happy. Like Edwho said if you hang in there many times things change for the better or your attitude changes and things work out. But in a business perspective things really aren`t that bad ,but the chance you are taking is will your ex-boss wait until you decide what to do..
I would really sit down with that wonderful wife of yours and talk this out.If your dream is really to have your own business you have already done the hard  part  by getting started that`s whats important but don`t let that dream turn into a nightmare.
Martin
edwho

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Dec 18, 2007 11:50 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thank you all for your advice/comments.  All of you have raised valid points and I am carefully considering them all.  There is definitely FEAR or FAILURE.  Im looking at things today and see that I am in a position where I can say "i did a trip - it went well - i CAN do this.....but since Im not having the fun i expected, I can quit without being a failure".  Thats the easy way out......but I dont think its the best way out.  I always said that I would do this "until the wheels fall off", and I think I should really do that.  At least thats where Im leaning today.

Its good to know that its normal (or has at least happened to others) to be unhappy some days when you start out.  I was concerned about my emotional well being because I was pacing around my office talking to myself!!  Im normally a very stable individual, but stepping outside my comfort zone is VERY new to me.  

Please keep the comments coming - It is really helping me to decide what I need to do. 

FYI:  Im currently considering pushing on (as advised by some of you) for a year.  This will give me time to see whether I want to do this.  One year isnt too much to time to sacrifice for my daughters.

Thank you all again for the comments!

eduardo

 

CraigL

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Dec 18, 2007 10:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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One of the biggest, and perhaps most serious problems facing an entrepreneur is that they`re usually sort of like Major Tom, out there in the void, all alone, feeling as if the tether has snapped and there`s no way back. And yes, it IS common!

Some people have a team or a really excellent support system. Usually that support comes from someone who`s sharing the burden and is directly, personally involved in the business startup. But "usually," most entrepreneurs are alone.

Even if they have a really wonderful spouse or "significant other," it`s because that other person isn`t directly involved in a hands-on way with the business that the entrepreneur still feels alone. I know it was difficult when I`d come to someone with a problem, only to hear, "Well, I have faith in you! You`ll work it out."

Fine, except that didn`t help me work out the problem! :-D

From a psychological perspective, the entrepreneur finds him/herself at a fundamental crossroads of validation. It`s not approval---that`s a one-time thing we usually get as children. Validation is a judgement on the rationality or insanity of the way our mind is working. Technically, it`s an epistemological crisis. Epistemology is basically the question of how you know what you know.

An identity crisis is where you ask, "Who the hell am I, what am I doing here, and what if I`m not as great as I think I am?"

An epistemological crisis is where you ask, "What if everything I think I know is wrong? How would I know? Suppose what I believe is all a delusion? How can I know for sure...be certain that I`m right?"

To resolve this type of crisis we need some sort of validation. We need evidence and proof that our thought process concurs with reality. Ironically, this type of outside consensus is exactly NOT what`s needed in an identity crisis. There, a person must put a boundary around their personal self, and if they can`t, they usually need a professionally objective assistant along the lines of a psychologist.

The successful trip/client demonstrates objective validation that your business idea, business thinking, and business logic are correct. They`re in accordance with reality. On the other hand, it sounds as though the value you`re placing on the "go/no-go" process hasn`t yet been resolved.

In other words, we "can" build an electric car, but if we do, how "valuable" is the result of that process?

Only you can really assign the value to yourself and your family of continuing on with the business. I`m suggesting that at the foundation of all values will first be survival, then health, then enjoyment of life.
CraigL2007-12-18 22:28:17
tectt

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Dec 18, 2007 11:46 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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This discussion is so - so GOOD. 
Thanks Edwho for sharing your concerns.
All the advice from Winston2, CraigL & Nuevolution are great.
 
Edwho stated that "I unfortunately, do not feel the same fire now that everything is in order and ready to go."  Why do you feel this way?
 
Is it because after all the research, brainstorming & the excitement of "starting the business" that NOW when the business is up and running ALL the hard work begins. (Generating a Client Base, Marketing, Accounting & etc.)  You might feel you hit a brick wall or a little burned out.
 
I am a Home Base Travel Agent with a 3 & 1 year old at home.   When I started I really didn`t know what I was getting into, but I wanted to do something I enjoy.  Working and training at home is a challenge and after starting it seem like there was not enough hours in the day.  I ask myself "Why did I start this business & Will I be able to be successful".  So I walk around saying "YES, I CAN ~ I WILL SUCCEED". 
 
I suggest ~ Get a tape recorder when you need to bounce off some ideas on yourself. (that way you would not think that you are talking to yourself)
 
Job Security is Wonderful and there is alot of things to consider.  I think one question to ask yourself "If I go back to my previous job would I get my fire/passion back for the business?
 
It is excellent that your spouse is behind you in your decision.  This at times can help relieve the pressure of "no income this month, dear" and on the other hand "Wow, dear look at what we made".
 
Hope this helped a little bit.
tectt12/19/2007 12:00 AM


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Harding`s Travel
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