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houseofjerkyjanie

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Sep 23, 2007 1:34 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Oh please explain Craig, what you mean...all the same in what ways?

houseofjerkyjanie2007-9-23 2:3:22
CraigL

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Sep 23, 2007 2:14 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`m not saying "all the same." I wondering at a possible analog. In other words, a real estate broker sees a lot of people selling homes, and part of the off-shoot or subcontracting that broker might want to hand off would be fixing up a house for a better sale. They`re at a sort of "overview" level, and need to outsource some of the detail work.

So too, a wedding planner has a million things that need to happen, but also focuses on the overall wedding and getting it done. So wouldn`t a concierge specializing in getting specific details completed be someone a wedding planner might contract, or outource work to?
MoniMoni

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Sep 23, 2007 3:48 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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First, thank you all for your responses...

Second, I said the same thing. A coordinator or planner sees everything
from start to finish. As I said earlier, I don`t want to do that.

Maybe I should be more specific...there are people who cannot afford
wedding planners. Acccording to the course I took, a $50,000 wedding is
considered small potatoes (I kid you not, that`s what the planner said to
us). Typically, planners and coordinators are to charge 10-20% of the
cost of a wedding.   So that`s $5,000 - 10,000 right there. However 2006
figures show that the average cost of a wedding was 26,900.

But what about a Bride who does not want all of that? Some people do
not want the hassle. And quite frankly, I don`t have one girlfriend who
paid for a planner and their weddings were beautiful (complete with
caterer, baker and great location). But they still needed to take of things
(picking up invitations, getting bridesmaids gifts etc) while still holding
down jobs.

I`m telling you....there`s a market out their for this. TV shows like
Bridezillas, Whose Wedding is It Anyway and now, MTV has My Big Fat
Wedding show people who are spending OUTRAGEOUS amounts of money
for a wedding. Well, I`m sure I can help bride who want to spend their
money on down payment on a house and still be able to have a great
wedding.

I also read an article about business owner Jung Lee who runs a wedding
consulting firm called "Fete". She actually has contacts with vendors and
she has the couple come in for a "free" consulation. They come in, tell
her what they want and she then gives them a list people who can put
together the wedding bride wants. Now of course, she gets her cut from
the vendors.

The wedding business, according to the statistics I found is a 7.9 BILLION
dollar industry.

I`d like to take a crack at it! :)
MoniMoni2007-9-23 3:51:48
houseofjerkyjanie

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Sep 23, 2007 9:55 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Moni,

Sorry if I got off topic, I DO think that`s a great idea.  Actually even though my Daughter did use a coordinator, the coordinator did not do the running around. That was the most difficult thing for my Daughter figuring out who would.  Right before the wedding we all went crazy doing those things, to the point of absolute exhaustion! 

Good luck!

Janie

 

 

johnqh

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Sep 23, 2007 12:00 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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First, recent research shows the median (not average) wedding costs more close to $15000, much lower than the numbers people used to throw around.

And since you are targeting the low end of the market (couples who cannot afford wedding planners), let`s assume the average wedding cost of your market is $5000.

How much fee do you charge? If a couple`s total budget is $5000, maybe they are willing to spend $500 to $1000 on your errand service.

Then, you need to figure out the number of wedding in the geographical area which you want to cover, and again, since you target the low end, use 20% of the total number as your potental clients. What percentage of those can you really reach? My best estimate is that you can get business from 5% of the total weddings in the area, maybe much less because of your target market.

You also have to factor in how many you can handle. If you have a full schedule and average 2 weddings per week, you will have 100 weddings per year. At $500K per client, you are only making 50K/year before expense.

MoniMoni

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Sep 23, 2007 2:02 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The research that was given to me wedding consultant course was as
follows:

"Wedding Statistics & 2006 Wedding Market; 2.3
Million Weddings and Wedding Cost of $26,800"

and according to Money/CNN that figure can go up to 30K

http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/20/pf/weddings/

Honestly in the Tri-State area, (NY, NJ & CT) anyone who has a wedding
here spends more than 15K.   Location & transporation alone will break
the bank. Most people here spend over 20K.
MoniMoni2007-9-23 14:10:4
MoniMoni

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Sep 23, 2007 7:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Another report that confirmed the "average cost", as well as how
consultants were pushing the industry:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/fashion/24planner.html?
_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all


It figures that the media would have conflicting reports regarding the
wedding industry.

What is clear, selling the "Princess Wedding" is big business. Countless
books, television shows and wedding expos, somebody is buying into
this.

As I also stated, in the tri-state area, 20k is more like it.

It was stated to me during the Wedding Consultation/Planner course that
it is a tough market, if you are planning from the planner perspective.
What was once a small profession has now become a booming market.

And as I said earlier, based on the research I am doing, I`m going to take
a crack at the market.   

It would not matter to me if the salary was only 50K, that`s what I`m being
paid currently. I would prefer to make that working for myself than with
the corporation I`m working for now. If I was looking to do this to get
rich it would be one thing. I enjoy events but I know what it is to plan
and to also get what you need to acquire just to pull something off. As a
former assistant, I constantly had to get whatever was required for
executive staff on a daily basis, so I am familiar with getting the
impossible. But running a service is a different entity.

$50K today could mean $100K the next year...have to start somewhere.
MoniMoni2007-9-23 19:57:33
johnqh

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Sep 23, 2007 9:01 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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To make that 50K, you would have to handle 2 clients per week average, and according to you, you are targeting the low end market, which is much tougher to crack.

I am not saying there is not a need. However, as a business person, the objective is to be profitable and make as much profit as possible.

I just think if you can get 100 clients per year from the low end market, you as well can get into the full wedding planning business, handle 20 clients per year and make 2X more.

Let me put it in another way -

You want to get into a business to run errands for people. How much do you think the errands are worth to your target market? $15/hour? $30/hour? You are not really running a business. Instead, you are your own boss for an low paying errand job. If you want to do service for people, why would you pick a "job" which pays for $20/hour instead of one for $50/hour?

MoniMoni

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Sep 24, 2007 12:29 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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johngh,

point taken, thank you for your input.
MoniMoni2007-9-24 0:29:36
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