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breakingthru

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Mar 25, 2009 7:55 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I am brand new to SuN. I have ideas all the time but have never felt like I was in a position to go after them financially or otherwise. So I am gonna throw this out there and see where it takes me. I have an idea for a service using text and I used to work with a start up company that has the capability to take on my idea. I would really be creating another twist on what they have been trying to do for years and I believe this will push them over the top. How should I appraoch this as far as protecting my position in it. I am know the founder but don`t trust the head of sales at all (hence used to work with start up CO). Thank you in advance for your input. If you need more info please say so.
 
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AuroraAnderson

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Mar 25, 2009 9:36 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Sounds like you need a good patent attorney.  I`ve worked w/ patent attorneys over the years and they will become your best friend when it comes to protecting your ideas.  Co-founder of our business, in fact, is a patent attorney.  Here`s an article on finding a good patent attorney:  http://www.inventionconvention.com/ncio/inventing101/029.html
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nevadascul

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Mar 25, 2009 9:50 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I go along with Aurora,

Patent your idea first.  Then present it.  I also don`t trust sales people.  I used to work with them.  They do anything to make a sale or a commission.



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menexis

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Mar 25, 2009 10:09 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If would not share your idea with an organization that you do not trust. The whole patent route can take some time and can delay your idea especially if you want to get going rightaway.
 
Chances are someone has already though of what you want to do or someone or some company is already doing it. You don`t have to have a brand new idea to make money. If you connect with the right people and you have a good marketing strategy you can make money with your idea.

I would stay away from the patent route and just find people you can trust and run with it
MattThomas

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Mar 25, 2009 2:21 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If would not share your idea with an organization that you do not trust. The whole patent route can take some time and can delay your idea especially if you want to get going rightaway.
 
Chances are someone has already though of what you want to do or someone or some company is already doing it. You don`t have to have a brand new idea to make money. If you connect with the right people and you have a good marketing strategy you can make money with your idea.

I would stay away from the patent route and just find people you can trust and run with it



Just because there is a possibility that an idea is already patented shouldn`t deter you from trying. What if Thomas Edison stopped trying to invent the lightbulb because he believed "someone else probably already came up with the idea`?

I do agree 100% that you don`t have to be brand new in order to make money. In fact, you might have the advantage if you are NOT brand new.

However, if you have an idea that you really want to pursue, I think you`d be cheating yourself if you didn`t give it a try and see if you can patent it. However, if you really don`t trust this company, why do business with them? Why not try to find a more trustworthy business you can sell your idea to?


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breakingthru

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Mar 25, 2009 8:49 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks all for your replies. To be a little more clear about my post. My idea is really a way to create a niche for what they already have and once the niche is used (successfully) it will showcase the true potential of the product and its other uses(original capabilities) which will create demand. Would I need to  get a patent, license, copyright, ncnd, or provisional patent? It is their product I simply have a way to use it that will create demand in other areas once it is seen. I was involved in the start of this company and then could not work with the sales v.p. He had a corporate mindset in a entrepreneurs environment and they have been dragging along for 6 years. I would like to approach with a product developer type scenario making some up front money and or royalties. I can also see someone like a black berry coming along to buy it and I would like to hold some equity in the company for a sale transaction like that.
 
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patentandtrademark

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What if Thomas Edison "invented" the lightbulb after someone else already came up with the idea and had a patent for it - and then began selling it.  KAPOW!  He`s done.


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MattThomas

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What if Thomas Edison "invented" the lightbulb after someone else already came up with the idea and had a patent for it - and then began selling it.  KAPOW!  He`s done.



Yes, but if he does all the patent work ahead of time as suggested, he`d know beforehand if he is at risk for any lawsuit liability, so he`d know whether or not to proceed.

The suggestion isn`t for someone to just invent someone and start selling it without doing any research, the suggestion is to do your due diligence to see if an idea or concept has already been taken, and to what degree it can be legally tweaked or altered without owing royalties.

The important thing to remember is that Thomas Edison took that risk, and is one of the most well known and successful entrepreneur and inventor in history.
MattThomas3/26/2009 8:03 PM


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