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Tomnitetrip

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Sep 09, 2008 12:12 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`d like to promote my product as green, as it is very energy efficient.  LED lights use 90% less energy than the traditional bulbs. However, the product base is made out of plastic - not very environmentally friendly. I have been working with the manufacturer to see if we can use reclaimed plastics - don`t know if this is possible.  But what do you think?  Could I market the product as green on the merits that it saves electricity?  OR do you think the entire product, packaging etc... needs to be green as well?

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Sep 09, 2008 5:39 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The essence of Being Green is to have the bulk of your product and its components made of recycled, recyclable, and renewal resources.  The essence of Going Green is to improve on an existing benchmark for your particular product. 

 

I don’t think there is any benchmark established for you to better.  So aside from simply stating the obvious, that the bulbs are efficient, I don`t believe your product has any green merit. 

 

But it is truly admirable that you have such lofty goals, so please don’t curb your enthusiasm or stop looking for other sources of materials.

minimegeology

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Sep 10, 2008 12:57 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Tom,
 
I think it`s great that you are working on such a great project.  Will your lights be mercury-free unlike the ones that many folks are promoting these days?  The mercury content on the lights today is concerning to me so I`m hoping that someone comes up with an energy efficient light that is free of mercury.
 
Tracy


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CraigL

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Sep 10, 2008 4:22 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Who cares if it`s "green?" If you`re selling organic something, or sustainable energy services, fine....being "green" is a feature and possibly a benefit. But I really and truly wonder at the number of people who believe that "green" people are such a huge market demographic they`ll buy anything, as long as it`s labeled "green."

Come on! It`s poltically correct jargon, pure and simple. Only a small number of modern businesses are willfully going out to "destroy the environment." Most people understand the benefits of recycling, as long as it doesn`t go overboard.

But the main problem is when someone tries to force a product into the "green" category for no reason at all other than....nothing.

What, someone`s going to say, "Oh...well, I really don`t want this product, but HOLY COW! Look`it this....it`s GREEN! Hey, now that changes my entire outlook, and I`m gonna buy one immediately!" :-D I don`t think so.
CraigL2008-9-10 4:23:13
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Sep 12, 2008 8:18 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig,
 

Your take on Green and it’s selling power flies in the face of everything happening in the retail marketing world.  In fact, every retailer is feverishly working on ways to incorporate Green into their products, product lines, and marketing.  Whether they are just jumping on the bandwagon may be something else, and only time will tell if the entire Green phenomenon is nothing more than a fad, but for entrepreneurs like Tom, bucking the trend is suicide. 

 

Yes, absolutely, people will choose Green over the other product, even if it’s slightly more expensive, which will not be the case before long.  And it won’t be long before we see product labels clearly noting the carbon footprint of the product and that will prey upon our collective conscience until we suck up Green stuff as if it were the “lite” version.

minimegeology

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Sep 12, 2008 8:57 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi All,
 
I don`t think that people necessarily buy "Green" over another product right now.  I think it is a lot of hype and not all of these products are being fully thought out.  CFLs are my big concern.  Yes, they may save energy now but in 15-20 years when there are millions of them in household trash (i.e. unlined landfills) they are going to contaminate the groundwater supply with mercury which, in my opinion, is a much bigger problem.   
 
Please don`t think I`m against the environment.  I have worked for over 15 years as an environmental consultant performing soil and groundwater clean-ups.  But people should realize that the environmental laws today allow a certain amount of pollution and the use of all "green" products will not solve all of the environmental issues we have today.  I think we need to make as many truly environmentally-friendly products as possible but I also think that if marketers don`t watch the overuse of the word "green" then people will end up not caring.
 
Someone told me that I should promote my products as Green because they are made of natural rocks and minerals but I have resisted because I think the products, what they are made of, and how they are used should be the emphasis instead of just pushing the word "green."
 
Tracy


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Sep 12, 2008 4:21 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig,
 

Your take on Green and it’s selling power flies in the face of everything happening in the retail marketing world.  In fact, every retailer is feverishly working on ways to incorporate Green into their products, product lines, and marketing.  Whether they are just jumping on the bandwagon may be something else, and only time will tell if the entire Green phenomenon is nothing more than a fad, but for entrepreneurs like Tom, bucking the trend is suicide. 

 

Yes, absolutely, people will choose Green over the other product, even if it’s slightly more expensive, which will not be the case before long.  And it won’t be long before we see product labels clearly noting the carbon footprint of the product and that will prey upon our collective conscience until we suck up Green stuff as if it were the “lite” version.


If a million people say something stupid, it`s still stupid.

If a million people believe that saying their product is imported from galactic extraterrestrials, then they`ll say so. Does that improve their product, sales numbers or market share? Only if there`s a large audience of buyers who only will buy products made with alien technology.
cynchrys

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Sep 12, 2008 6:53 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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iow...the emperor has no clothes???
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Sep 13, 2008 2:35 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Greg,
Thanks for driving my point home.  Yes, the masses will buy Green simply because it says Green.  Stupid or otherwise, valid or not.
 
And Cindy, absolutly, perceived or not.
 
Marketing and sales has nothing to do with reality as much as it has to do with creating reality.  The world is becoming green-aware and the more the media flashes fragments of green in across our TV sets and throughout supermarket shelves, the more we`ll all buy green.
 
Tom, it`s just good business to take every edge you can get in selling your product.  Keep an eye on your competition and similar products and marketers and go with what works.  Go with what sells.
Tomnitetrip

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Sep 13, 2008 12:51 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thank you all for your feedback. I think this was an excellent discussion and maybe hit on a nerve.  As to my specific product, I intend to promote its energy efficiency as a green alternative to traditional lighting. While I don`t expect people to buy my product because I say its green - I do believe that it will help.  As DMIGUY states, go with what sells - but I`ll add one condition in terms of my values - I won`t mislead or exaggerate to make a sale.  And I do intend to see if i can use recycled material in manufacturing to lower its carbon footprint.

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