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executeksearch

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May 27, 2006 11:20 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hello all-

I am trying to figure out how I can use graphical items in my site and still have it be SEO friendly. I have read many places that the ugly, text only sites get the best search results. Is that true or is it just a clever marketing scheme thought up by SEO experts? I know that there are some SEO peole in here! What do you think? I want top organic placement but I don`t want to loose the appealing asthetics of graphics. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Best Wishes!

Ken~
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May 28, 2006 12:07 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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David

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May 28, 2006 2:33 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Search engines ultimately rank on content.  Text obviously connotes content and most grpahics don`t unless you`re using them as an illustration.  The fact that most graphics on websites are pop-up ads or banner ads certainly doesn`t help their case, but many spam/typosquatter sites primarily use text.

The dirty secret, at least with Google rankings, is that perhaps the most important factor in SEO are the sites who link to you.  The higher those sites are ranked, the higher you`re ranked.  This way, spammers can`t just set up fake sites to plant links.



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Nuevolution

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May 28, 2006 2:56 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Execute..
The only thing the seach engines "Bots" are worried about is: content... text, text, text and how relevant your content is to the Keyword they searched for. Whether you have graphics or not, it doesn`t matter... But you can include this on your code <img name="enter a brief keyword"> and then follow it up by the alt ="describe your image" this is text, and it is content.
Also, the more hyper-links you have the better.. Find resources that link to other relevant pages, for example: let`s say you are selling a Sony TV, include a Link to the SONY web site, this helps alot. But don`t worry about  using graphics. Graphics are friendly too... Stay away from Flash though...



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Chuck

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May 30, 2006 7:29 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I don`t know how much of a secret link popularity is, but that could just be due to the fact that I`m immersed in this every day.  Certainly link popularity is a huge factor in your organic ranking; in some very high profile cases inbound links to a site can completely trump the factors on the site itself (the most well known case being a Google search for `miserable failure`).

That being said, onsite optimization can still be a factor, and shouldn`t be discounted.  There`s nothing wrong with utilizing images on a site - they improve the aesthetic of a site, and in many cases, when used properly, can vastly improve the user`s experience on a website (which is what it should all be about anyway).  The biggest problem I see is when a website owner takes content that directly relates to their products and services, and ties that content up in an image for some reason - usually to preserve some `branding` element like a font or color.  That`s where you run into trouble, because a search engine robot is looking at the code behind your site, and back there none of that text passes through, unless you include it all in the "alt" modifier for your image tag (but you`re telling the search engine it`s not important enough to display it on the page).

So the moral of the story - use images to enhance the experience on your site and provide a clean and professional design - use text to get across the most important information about your business/products/services.  That`s admittedly basic, but with a lot of sites that`s the best place to start.


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chuck fuller
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May 30, 2006 9:55 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Ken,
Well, in SEO, there are two major components:  keyword rich content and quality inbound links. I think most of the experts have mentioned what I`ll say here again. 

Flash is detrimental to top rankings as search engines cannot read flash.  Even with W3C compliance and alt tags inclusion, I generally discourage heavy usage of flash when I work with clients to build sites.  If a client has or wants a flash intro page – I usually have it removed or discourage its use.  I think that flash is good for aesthetic appeal but does it really generate new business? Besides, its only nice the first time you see it – most times people just want websites to ‘get to the point’.  But I digress - lol.

The last point that you make is related to ugly text only sites.  I believe that there are ways to create aesthetically appealing sites that are SEO friendly. There has to be a right balance of graphic usage and text area.  See some of our in-progress work where there’s a lot of room for text: http://www.work-files.com/marketingprnetwork/, http://www.work-files.com/frenchcosmetics/version2/, & http://www.work-files.com/mnminternet/


The usage of graphics should also be limited for other reasons such as quicker download times - remember - quite a large percentage of users are still on dial-up connection. We don`t want to lose them just because they couldn`t load the site up.

In conducting successful SEO, finding keywords that are relevant and popular but yet not too competitive is the most important thing.  Then initiating link building to get relevant links is another. 

However, there’s much more to SEO than just those two things and therefore I always share with potential clients the need to put a comprehensive online marketing program together.  Just like it is done in traditional marketing, companies don’t stop doing marketing after sending out flyers one month, do they? Online marketing has to happen on a monthly basis because you may on the first page today and drop off the top rankings within days if not hours.

Hopefully this helps – my apologies for another long winded message but you did ask for ‘expert’ opinion – lol.

Take care….. 



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executeksearch

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May 31, 2006 10:37 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Wow, once again the SUNsters have provided some valuable information! Thank you all for your responses.

SEOguru, I see that your screen name is appropriate! Thank you for your feedback. I will use all of this information when I finally get to the design phase of my new site. Thanks again everyone! Best Wishes!

Ken~
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Sep 03, 2012 5:26 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi

 Basically Website depends on the content. Google prefer the content and yahoo  prefer the images.

 

thanks.

 



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TheStreetTeam

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Jan 16, 2013 10:19 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi

 Basically Website depends on the content. Google prefer the content and yahoo  prefer the images.

 

thanks.

 



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 I agree with this.



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