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Rich

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Apr 05, 2006 8:44 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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For those of you who`ve already hung the "Open for Business" sign and are operating your businesses, you may have forgotten how mysterious, intimidating and confusing starting up a business can be. And it seems especially difficult for newbies to figure out how to get something made - whatever their product might be.

It`s one of the most commonly asked questions on our radio show: "Where can I find a manufacturer?" One entrepreneur wants to have athletic shoes made. Another wants to have a new type of enclosure made. And the list goes on...

What they`re looking for is a "contract manufacturer" -- companies that make products for people according to the customer` specifications and a purchase order. They`re located all over the U.S. as well as in low cost-of-labor hotspots around the world.

I`d like to draw upon those of you who have already made a go of a business and have had your products made for any great resources you know of to help people locate great contract manufacturing.

One resource we refer people to is The Thomas Register, which lists makers of all kinds of components and products. But contract manufacturing often requires custom work, specific tooling, etc.

Do any of you know any good reps for contract manufacturers? 

Rich2006-4-5 8:46:50


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MJ

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Apr 05, 2006 10:45 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Finding Contract Manufacturing sources can be a daunting task for any company, let alone a fledgling organization with tight cash flow constraints.

In today`s hypercompetitve marketplace, it is vital to work with a company that has significant presence in low-cost countries throughout the world. Today it is China and India, tomorrow it will be the Korea`s, and the next day countries in Eastern Europe. It is continually evolving and technology is of course driving this evolution.

Companies need to be able to leverage low cost country sources to effectively compete in a global marketplace.

OPERATIONAL CHALLENGE: 
 
- Constrained resources
- Lack of local presence/expertise
- Long, complex product flows
- Evolving regulations
- High costs of poor quality (failure)
- Managing flexibility & responsiveness

Common Issues in going offshore: Not having a clearly defined strategy for your product, not having clear concise drawings/specifications or prototypes, relying on ISO/QS certifications, freight estimation, using price as the key deciding factor, only speaking with one factory or single sourcing the contract manufacturing, not having a back-up factory should the terms become unfavorable, and finally, finding a relaible freight forwarding company to work with the factory to ship and ultimately clear customs.

When working with clients to find contract manufacturing opportunities, whether it be Stateside or Offshore, here is my approach:

This approach assumes you have a prototype built and are ready to launch your product. It also assumes you have performed your due diligence and market analysis of what you can ultimately sell your product for to the consumer.

1- First and foremost, does your product have a high labor content? If yes, then you need to go offshore. With US labor rates upwards of $15-20/hr. fully loaded, you will never find a factory competitive enough. If no, then you will be able to find a good quality source within the USA with relative ease.

2-  Understand your budget and your "True" cost of manufacturing the product here in the United States. What does it actually cost you to produce the final product? This is a key piece of the model which many people overlook.

3- Develop a "Target" price for your product to be produced. In essence, what would you like your total spend to be per unit. Understanding your total cost is extremely important. 

4- Find a company who can work with you in various capacities to help you find contract manufacturing sources in low cost countries. Prior to searching for a partner, decide how you want the relationship to develop. For instance, do you simply want to pay a 1-time fee for an introduction to a factory or group of factories in China/India/etc? Or, do you want the company to play a larger role in the introduction, negotiating terms, negotiating freight, and program mangement of the goods? Either scenario is fine, you just need to understand how in depth your role will be. If you choose the former, you can antipate traveling to the factory at least on a quarterly basis to maintain the relationship.

When an existing customer or a potential customer approaches us, we work in various ways. For instance, we have a client who owns a Baby Clothing company who sources everything in China including all of the textiles as well as the production of the finished goods. He hired us to Program Manage the order flow. He hired us on a monthly retainer to cover 6 separate factories throughout southern China for the life of the Programs. He supplied us with a complete schedule of goods including the volume per unit, samples of each product, drawings and specifications. In addition, the schedule also lists how many of each product should ship on a monthly basis. We then deploy a designer that is on our W2 in Hong Kong to each respective factory. This person is solely responsible in executing the "checks and balances". If the product produced does not match the sample our client supplied, it never leaves the factory. This of course saves a tremendous amount of money for our customer in time and frustration.

Having an office in Hong Kong allows us to take much of the guess work out of finding contract manufacturing opportunities for our clients. We have over 17 years in experience throughout Southeast Asia including China and India.  The company you ultimately choose should want to work very hard to understand your business model and ultimate goals and objectives. They should have a local presence in China or India with interpretors who truly understand OUR culture.  If the company has an American citizen who runs the offshore facility - even better.  This will help shorten the success curve!

Hope this helps.

mj

Rich2006-5-1 11:4:56
Rich

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Apr 05, 2006 11:03 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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mj,

awesome stuff! just got my auto-notification and BLAM! here`s turnkey advice.

thanks, mj!

so, in the most basic way, where does someone go to find their contract manufacturer? is there a clearinghouse of leads for something like this? 



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Rich Sloan , Co-Founder, Chief Startupologist, StartupNation
MJ

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Apr 05, 2006 11:23 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Here are two resources I would recommend in getting started.

1- www.alibaba.com. This site is a wealth of information that will help to educate you as well as find sources. Yahoo recently purchased a significant stake in this company.  It`s a tremendous resource. You do not have to subscribe to alibaba`s fee based section to obtain tremendous information. Although our company is based in Hong Kong, we often find our selves using alibaba.com as a way to learn about certain factories and companies within China.

2- The name of our company is Transpoint Asia. You can view our presentation at www.transpointasia.com. Our sourcing arm of the business is called WorldSource.  You can view the entire presentation at the address provided. Because our company is unique, we don`t have all of our capability on the site. What you will see is an overall rundown of what we deliver for our customers.

Good luck in the search. All of my contact information is on the site.

Regards,

mj

 

 

 

Degrees

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Apr 05, 2006 11:52 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Couldn`t agree more with MJ
We had to go straight to Hong Kong and interview manufactures ourselves.
Rich, I don`t really know of any good clearing house of reps. I`ve been looking for years. Usually reps will focus in one industry, say electronics, injection molding for example.
The search for manufactures may be jumping the gun. We found an american engineer that worked with a similar product and dealt with China on a weekly basis. He got us thinking is the right direction during the design and prototype phase. I think this was key for us.

One HUGE point MJ made was having someone inspect the product in china, or overseas. This is a normal way of doing business over there. It would be an insult  to inspect your manufacture after years of working together, but over there it happens all the time.

Degrees2006-4-5 11:55:45
Degrees

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Apr 05, 2006 11:59 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Another manufacture source is www.ttnet.net
Aron

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Apr 30, 2006 12:36 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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For those who need consumer packaged goods manufactured in Southern California I would recommend my co-packer Pacifica Foods (Corona, CA). They are a smaller co-packer who really go the extra mile for start-ups.

It`s the little things they do that help us with each of our runs. Providing temporary storage (free of charge), connecting us with great raw material providers, and a willingness to answer as many questions as we can throw at them.


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keycon

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May 02, 2006 12:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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An old friend is the principal of a company that has been working in China and Taiwan since the early 80s. Worked with him on several projects. Has an office on both countries - maybe moreby now. Great guy to work with. Chris Davis is his name. Does a lot in apparel and has been overseas for so long, he has the "in" with many factories and the personal contacts, too. MJ above appears to have the right experience and knowledge as well.

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Great Thread!

R@



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Aron

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May 24, 2006 12:38 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Follow-up to my previous post.

I think what makes our contract manufacturer so good is their clientele as a whole. About 70% of their business is small business work. This is great for us because they are used to getting start-up questions. For almost everything we ask they have solved some time in the past. Nothing helps you sleep better than having a competent business partner.
 




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scrappy

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May 30, 2006 4:43 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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what a great thread!  I have researched and researched for a particular hinge and have found nothing!!! I`ve tried researching companies that offer to make this hinge and tried emailing them with a description of what I was looking for and rec`d no comments back... One thing I was told but have not tried is to go to a college and speak with the head of the engineering group to see if they could do a class project to make this hinge.  The problem is, if they make the hinge, then where to go next?? and, is it necessary to have to by a container load of hinges?  They truely make it hard for the `small` companies.  Any suggestions?



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