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Thank you NIKOLE..
One of us got paid and as a matter a fact the customer just got paid... so his reurn on investment is one more sale and he will break even. See he`s a youngster that hangs around all these import car shows.. and you know how they are... They want their car to look good. the least they care about is the dynamics of a website.
But the transaction features are there.
According to the Web site owner... he got all the information through pay pal and was able to Over night the packages... Mind you the web site`s only been up for no more than 24 hours.


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Edgar Monroy
Web Developer / Owner / Consultant
When starting your own business the need to "know-how" is greater than money!
http://www.nuevolution.net

Edgar, there wasn`t anything wrong with Twilight`s tone. My comments were a lot harsher than his, and dug much deeper into the problems. By almost any objective standards, the web site is very poorly implemented whether or not it runs. You requested this critique. Everything Twilight said was well-informed, correct, and nicely presented. If you want to get angry at someone for harsh remarks, I`m the one, not Twilight.

Im not getting mad at anyone.. this is a conversation...and I don`t have a problem with getting feed back... If I didn`t want the feed back this posting would have never been created. Don`t you think?
But there is a proper way to deliver your opinions... and that`s what I am trying to get at..
Don`t worry about me ... my feelings weren`t hurt... Like I posted earlier... there were two transactions through the web site earlier today


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Edgar Monroy
Web Developer / Owner / Consultant
When starting your own business the need to "know-how" is greater than money!
http://www.nuevolution.net

There`s also a proper way to deliver your rebuttal.

It sounds a lot like "Thank you for your time. I will give that some thought."

It`s pretty obvious you can`t handle criticism, what did you expect me to say? "Oh, your site is wonderful, I should hire you for all my future projects".  No! You`re a terrible web developer, and it`s pretty sad that a "newbie" can point this out.

In your very first post you hyped it up bragging about your amazing skills of coding a custom cart (which you didn`t).  To me it`s pretty obvious it`s more of a sales pitch and you`re looking for an undeserving pat on the back, rather than any real feedback.

Despite the fact that the site is poorly coded, or uses tables, it`s your professionalism on this forum and towards the client that makes you a joke of a business owner.



Your clients must be THRILLED about working with you! You must really stand behind your quality of work!  Here`s a suggestions: either stop working for peanuts and charge what it`s worth to build a website the right way - content and all, or admit you`re an amateur and the only projects you can get are from friends and teenagers that hang out at car shows and barely have enough cash to scrape together for a website.  Maybe this should set off some alarms? Did It ever occur to you that your quality of work is limiting you to friends and those that are "worried to spend money on a REAL designer?"

Act your age Edgar, you`re a grown man. [At least I think, I can`t tell your gender form your photo- maybe you should change it] You should be able to take criticism from a so called "newbie". And if because I`m a newbie and my opinion holds no weight, then you should be able to easily dispute me rather than posting your pointless rambling rebuttals referring to fecal matter and horses.

What difference does it make if I`m new to the forums or not?  You`ve been here longer than me and you`re still clueless about web design.  Why are your responses more valid than mine or any other newbie who clearly has more knowledge about web design and development than you? I`m not saying I`m the best, or I know it all -you said that, but I`m not too far off from the truth if veterans on this board are agreeing with me.

I`ve tried offering you some sound advice, in fact, all of us here have, but you don`t want to hear it. Your responses have a bitter ring of defeat and an unwillingness to listen. But there`s hope! There`s a community college in your area that offers some basic HTML courses, you should consider signing up! Good luck with future projects - you`re going to need all the help you can get working for $600 a site.