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Part of my track record. 1300 pages. 1000 graphics. [Oversaw design and implementation, including information mapping, template design, content architecture.]

Track record in what sense?

11 years of web development including multi-national blue chip clients?

Project managed development work for projects with over £5m (us$9.8m) spend

I have a fair track record... what I unfortunately lack is the ideas to have come up with something like amazon or myspace etc before anyone else :)  

I am not sure why you posted a thread asking for critique of your bespoke development when it isnt a bespoke development and you do not accept the comments of anyone that isnt just happy backslapping.     


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Astaroth Solutions - Bespoke web development

Im accepting everything, and learning others mentality. What I don`t accept is when you makes an assumption that just because the web site wasn`t coded in table-less format that I am ripping a good friend off? Come on now.... how would you take that? As for your track record, I don`t know... as for cookie monster? You don`t even  have a page... Thats a blog.. are you talking about blog pages? thats not a design..

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Edgar Monroy
Web Developer / Owner / Consultant
When starting your own business the need to "know-how" is greater than money!
http://www.nuevolution.net

I included a link above. Here it is again.

Part of my track record. 1300 pages. 1000 graphics. [Oversaw design and implementation, including information mapping, template design, content architecture.] There is a convenient "validate XHTML" link at the bottom of each page.

p.s Re: autooptic.com. [ I don`t mean to nitpick, but I also noticed...]

1. The font size is locked. This is bad design.
2. Embedding content in an Iframe creates three sets of scrollbars, including addition horizontal scrollbars. This is very bad design, bad implementation.
3. You`re using centered texts for paragraphs. This is bad design. English readers are used to justified text or ragged right edge.
4. The table sizes are hard coded. This is bad design.
5. The namespace definition is missing some important data. Bad design.
6. You`re using <br/> elements for paragraph spacing when you should be using CSS margins. This is bad design. Very sloppy.
7. There are tons of hard coded values in the code. This won`t scale.
8. Your tables mix inline parameters and CSS classes. Bad design.
9. Font sizes are inconsistent for similar information on different pages. Very sloppy.
10. You use a lot of unnecessary tags. You use <div> tags where you should use <span> tags.
11. The HTML isn`t properly nested. It`s poorly formed.

One small item: http://www.autooptic.com/contactus.php

The field label text for the contact form is the same color as the background, causing the text to disappear.


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chuck fuller

Edgar, it`s not that we`re ripping on your site because you`ve chosen to use tables to display the site.  The problem is the site was poorly coded irrespective of tables or CSS, which is a direct reflection of your abilities to design websites.

You asked for our input, and we`re giving it to you.  There is a reason why standards apply, and why a well coded site is important.  We`re suggesting to you if you understand this, your so called "proven track record" would be much better off.  If you learned to properly code a site, you could do your friends and future clients a favor by A) either charging less because you`ll be able to whip together a site much faster or B) Charge more because you`re a step above every so called web developer out there and can actually develop a website that validates.

Table-based layouts are often needlessly demonized.  To the end user, it doesn`t matter whether your site uses table-based or CSS-based positioning.  In over 10 years or working with web-based software, I`ve never seen this be an issue; every browser knows how to render a table.  If it works, it works!

(just my $0.02...)

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Oleg Issers | StartupNation.com Web Team

50% of computer programming is trial and error. The other 50% is copy and paste.

That`s part of the problem... browsers such as IE 6 are tolerant of poorly coded table based layouts, which make it seem acceptable to use them.

When you say "poorly coded" do you mean malformed HTML?  Or do you consider any table-based layout to be poorly coded? 

IE 6 in general is very forgiving of malformed HTML.  But IMO well-coded table-based layouts are a valid alternative to CSS.  (as long as it looks the same to the end user!)

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Oleg Issers | StartupNation.com Web Team

50% of computer programming is trial and error. The other 50% is copy and paste.