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RabbitMountain

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Feb 21, 2009 5:34 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Is there any way to cut down on the amount of self-promotional spam showing up in the forums? It seems like every other post I click through to is a self-promotion that belongs either in the marketing section or submitted as an article. It`s tarnishing the SuN forums mojo.

Thanks,
—paula
cubemonkey

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Feb 21, 2009 6:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Kind of like everyone signatures....like yours!


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MattTurpin

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Feb 21, 2009 7:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I think he means replies with no content other than, "My business specializes in your problem. Drop me a line." In most forums, that would be inappropriate, but I think it`s acceptable here. I would only caution the members who reply like this without posting direct information elsewhere, that they face an uphill battle.

What I mean is, after reading threads here, I`ve gathered impressions, for better or worse, on the value of most people`s statements. If you post a lot, and now and then you ask me to contact you if I need any help, I`ll contact you if I need any help. If the only posts I`ve seen from you are asking people to contact you if they need any help, I`m going to contact one of the people who put their reputations on the line posting publicly.

I`ve gotten two offers of one on one communication - one from Mfackrell, and one from RobertJ. These two frequently offer their knowledge/statements to public opinion, and public opinion more often than not ratifies these. If I need help later, I`ll certainly keep them in mind. There are a handful of people who cold-call, and why would I need that when I have proven knowledge offering the same service.

So anyway. I think offering promotions of services that fit the nature of the site is great. I think offering the services without proving your worth is counterproductive, simply because for every professional offering consultation blindly, there are a handful of members offering proven knowledge openly. Post well and your consultation services will probably do well. I don`t think self promotions should be prohibited. I think they should be encouraged to do well - to do well they have to put their money where their mouth is and prove their worth, and the only way to do that is to post valuable information. We both win.
MattTurpin2/21/2009 7:40 PM


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houseofjerkyjanie

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Feb 21, 2009 8:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Cubemonkey, you replied to Rabbit Mountain....."Kind of like everyone signatures....like yours!"  ????  I see yours there too, so what are you saying?
 
I agree with Paula, many times there are a lot of spammy posts, I just don`t even read them or click on a lot of posts anymore, which is unfortunate.
The signature links have given us all an opportunity to show who we are without spamming the forum. If you want to click on the Sig link, you can.  But I doubt many do, unless it`s something that interests them. My silly Sig link just uses my keywords, not trying to entice you to click. But if there is a `no follow Sig link`, it`s not necessary anyway, so I won`t :) 
 
Janie 

cubemonkey

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Feb 22, 2009 12:32 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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It`s sarcasm, I`m well aware of my signature. I`m just stating that theirs is a self promotion jam packed with 10 buzz words, big time. Mine is just absurd, makes no sense and has the words guitar and repair making up 6 of the 9 words. Don`t follow in my ways.









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RabbitMountain

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Feb 22, 2009 8:13 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Sigs aren`t the issue, that isn`t what I`m talking about. Sigs are like wearing a T-shirt with your business information. What I mean is that every other post I click on expecting to find some conversation is instead a long, drawn-out declaration of one`s own expertise. It seems that a lot more people are now using the forums for so-called "article marketing" expecting their posts here to get picked up by search engines and broadcast to the world.

The forums are not for article marketing. There`s a whole articles section to which anyone can pitch an article idea; and straight-up marketing offers belong in the marketing section. Either of these will get picked up by search engines too, there`s no need to post articles and self-promotions in the forums. The forums are for networking, helping each other, socializing and discussion.

Imagine if you went to a networking event and every third person you met launched into a prepared sales presentation about why you need to contract with him for something that`s not even on your radar. It`d be pretty obnoxious, because that`s not what networking events are for.

I`m with Janie -- I used to be a daily participant at the forums but I`m not anymore in part because of the jump in spammy posts. When I see an interesting headline and click through expecting to find discussion or debate, and find instead a self-promotional article, I feel tricked and ripped off. It happens way too often of late. Certainly I can`t be the only one who feels this way. 

—paula
TigerTaco

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Feb 22, 2009 12:45 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I know what you mean Paula and I`ve had a similar response (ditto with the more political ones) ... I find myself reading/responding to fewer postings (no great loss!~) and have stopped following some threads entirely.

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lambosv21

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Mar 16, 2009 2:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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it is inevitable to some extent.  I think tech crunch had this problem several years ago...
JMann2380

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Mar 19, 2009 1:45 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I gotta agree.  I love the idea of the forums, but the more I read, the more and more I am noticing this.  It is getting rather annoying.

It is so hard to find a good business/entrepreneur forum that isn`t just FILLED with self promotion/spam and people trying to pray on the eager and uninformed.  SUN is better but not where it could be.

I think a forum rule that bans all "obvious" self promotion would go a long way.  Signatures are fine... I actually like learning what people do.  It qualifies them somewhat.

My 2 cents if you guys want to keep growing in a positive manner.

-Josh

Rich

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Mar 19, 2009 2:11 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Josh and thread contributors, please private message me some examples of what you`re referring to. clearly we`re not catching as much as we should. happy to upgrade our efforts in this area!
 
Rich (and SuN team)


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