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Hello folks

Recently I went to a free seminar hosted by Trump University. Basically it was a front to another program where they would teach all the things they discussed there such as financing for business, getting into real estate, OPM etc etc. They said it costs $1500 for 2 days training and 6 months support.

Has anyone here ever done this? Is there a way to access that kind of info through other seminars/books, without having to pay that kinda money?

Awaiting you inputs.



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I would say yes, 

this information  hasnt just been developed.  maybe a tip here  or a tip there  but Im sure the concept  is nothing  completely  new.

They are simply re- branding the same old information that has been taught before,  under  a  highly recognized  name/brand  Trump...

Just my opinion  from all my experiences from looking at so many different  programs and opportunities. ( without having specifics  about that particular one).   they have organized  all of the information for you.  and the time you take gathering it all yourself  has value  doesn`t it?

Personaly I would reccommend purchasing about 5  books  by different authors  for about 20 bucks a piece and  you`ll have most of the information that they are going to tell you.

Take  Purchasing stocks.  there are a million and one people out there that will tell you they have all the answers   just pay them and they will take care of you,

Buy low and sell high,  or  sell high and buy low  is really the only two ways  to make money (yes there are different vehicles out there to do this but the techniqe is the  same),  and unless somebody has insider information  they can only guess by different indicators  what the investment will do, 

FYI,  increased volume on a stock means  there are many people who feel they know something that is going to happen to make the stock go up  and believe it or not  it ussually does.. Why  because the stock market is all based on supply and demand  and if more people are purchasing and selling,  the stock price is going to go up.  

 stock options  are the same way  , people love leveraging  their money  so if there is a high premium for the options  ussually from added demand, more people are purchasing  ( and more  contracts are outstanding).   they feel  they know something.

Back to the point  , there are basic principles  that can easily be learned  without having to spend a fortune.  Don`t pay for the name.  

Like Daves  seminair for 5K  I`m willing to bet all that information  is readily  available  for much less , if not almost totally free. if you have the time to gather the information.

Mike

First of all, let me say that I like Trump.  His Apprentice show is one of my favorites along with American Idol. But, $1500 seems a little high for a seminar.  I believe that you could find out the same information by reading several business books that you can pick up at the library free.

I agree with ideasandinnovations that you can buy books also and find out what you want.

However, Trump must be doing something right. He is a billionaire, and I bought his book.

Trump is a brand  name.  people are purchasing his  products and services because of the name ,  

I liked the apprentice also,  but lost   a great deal of respect for him when he fired that lawyer  on one of the first shows,  two seasons  ago i think it was.  because  he had an exemption for the board room and fired him for no other reason than accepting going into the board room without having to,  .   at that point in time  he looked like the best person on the team.   I stoped watching the show  because he really isnt looking for the best candidate ,  he is just looking for publicity  and money   which was  a little different than the image he conveyed  when he first started the show.

If you offered the  exact same info or products  under Joe Smith,  most people wouldn`t  give it a second look,

"Branding"  Baby,  its very, very important  ( my message for this post)

You can`t believe everything you see on TV, can you?

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The hard part about being in a position like Trump is that there is always someone smarter than you around the corner. If you reveal all your secrets, someone can do what you do better and push you out of the market.

The best Trump book is the Art of the Deal, where he explains how he rose to success. Buy it. The basic concept is think big because most people don`t.

If you want a backgound in real esate go to the seminar. If you want to become a billionaire like Trump, go to a construction site and work with a mentor in the property development industry. Trumps real apprentices are his children. They grew up going to construction sites, visiting him at the office and attending meetings with major players, or work for a company that purchases property already developed and learn from within.

 

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JU Thompson www.thesystem4u.com budedy@excite.com "The best training you will ever receive is to be in the company of high-energy,well-trained salespeople who make lots of $". H. Johnson

Hey guys, I recently came across a new entrepreneurship program by a man called Victory Darwin along the same lines of trumpu.com. He calls it University of Victory. I have heard that along with a good course material it also has distributorship opportunity. Does anyone know anything more about it?

People tend to go to seminars for networking. If they learn something new its a bonus, think about it how much information can they go into in just 2 days. A first aid class takes longer then that. The seminar gets your fire started but you must continue learning in other ways.

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Customers dont care how much you know, unless they know how much you care first

Hi all,

I think there is more than one thing to consider with a seminar investment.

1. How much time do you have to learn what is being offered? If you take the time to read this book, will you really learn it? If getting involved in 2 day seminar would help you learn it faster, and be able to make $$ faster, wouldn`t that be of value?

2. What do you plan on doing with the information? Are you planning to start a new career right away? Or is just something fun to learn?

3. What would you lose by learning it the "cheap" way? In other words, contacts with other people, support systems to ask questions and get help, etc.

4. What would have to happen to get the return on investment? Sell one house? Put one new idea into action?

What I`ve learned the hard way is that truly successful (think millionaires) people don`t make decision on cost alone - they decide what they need to do to get the return. And how likely is that to happen.

I just spent $1997 for a 3 day conference where I know I will get pitched by every speaker there. I`m not going too learn as much as rub shoulders with very powerful movers and shakers in my industry who help me thinker bigger about my products, my "positioning" and my vision for the future.

Wishing you much success!

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Melanie Benson Strick
Million Dollar Lifestyle Business Coach
& Virtual Team Building Expert
http://www.successconnections.com

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