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cugelert

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Sep 02, 2006 9:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi everyone,

Listen, there is so much talk on the TV and radio about how people buy homes with no money down... but there isn`t a single thing about how to buy a business with no money down... I need some strategies if anyone has any for a brick and mortar outlet.  There has to be some info somewhere someone used at one time or another...

Like quit claim deeds, etc...

Please, if you have some ideas I can use to buy this business fast and put cash in the owner`s pocket before it sells to someone else, I`d sure appreciate it...  Thanks.

Jerik

PS  Some specs are... asking 375,000, grosses 725,000, nets 200,000.  No existing loans or leins on business.



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Cu Gelert - The Legend ... If you`d like to know the value of money, go and borrow some... It is especially hard to work for money that you`ve already spent, on things that you never needed... Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it!
Ellay

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Sep 03, 2006 1:53 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I would like to know about this also. I hope someone posts. I`ll be checking my email for replies.

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cugelert

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Sep 03, 2006 2:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Ellay,

To tell you the truth, I once went to a 3 day seminar called Bizar Financing about 20 years ago when leverage was a popular thing.  They covered quite a few strategies but its been so long, I don`t even thing I have the notes and course anymore.  So, yes, I definitely know there are strategies out there.  Its just not available these days.

Take care, Jerik



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Cu Gelert - The Legend ... If you`d like to know the value of money, go and borrow some... It is especially hard to work for money that you`ve already spent, on things that you never needed... Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it!
cugelert

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Sep 03, 2006 10:22 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Ellay...

I just found some info cruising the net by accident.  Go to www.bcentral.com and click on finance.  They got 5 pages of all sorts of info, not to mention other catagories.

Hope it helps... jerik



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Cu Gelert - The Legend ... If you`d like to know the value of money, go and borrow some... It is especially hard to work for money that you`ve already spent, on things that you never needed... Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it!
SnowflakeMan

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Sep 05, 2006 3:58 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Guys

One of the best ways I ever heard was where the owner agreed to a payment schedule for the business albeit at a small premium.

In short (and very simplified) If a business owner wants to sell you the business for $10,000 and it has a proven cash flow then you could agree to pay the owner $1000 per month for 11/12 months netting him the asking price and $1-$2k for carrying the finance. The positive thing for the owner is they still have the business to sell if you default (indefinitely) on the business.

Needless to say - an attorney is essential

Best of luck

Lee



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Making International & Domestic sales easy on a No gain, no fee basis. Benenift from the management of Snowflake Media who have generated sales of over $300 million in the past 6 years. www.snowflakemedia.co.uk www.yournightoff.com
cugelert

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Sep 07, 2006 12:41 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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That is a great idea and the basis for my original one, but with a twist...  You see, I thought up a way that could get cash in his hands at the same time if I factored in a lender to your suggestion.  It goes like this...

Owner co-signs for a loan for me using the business for collateral.  He takes the money and I pay the loan off with the same default contingencies in place.  After all, the numbers I`m working with are much bigger than $10,000.

to be more specific...

1.Owner is asking $375,000.  2.Gross annual is over $735,000.  3.Net annual is $200,000.  4.Estimated value of business is $410,000.  5.It is free and clear.  6.Property is leased (no real estate).  7.Owner will take $350,000 cash right now.

So thats why I decided to try and see if I can get a lender involved, since he`s looking for cash, but I want another angle in case this isn`t feasible.  You know, like maybe the lender won`t agree to these terms even if the owner will, etc.

Jerik



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Cu Gelert - The Legend ... If you`d like to know the value of money, go and borrow some... It is especially hard to work for money that you`ve already spent, on things that you never needed... Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it!
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