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Joan

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Nov 16, 2006 5:11 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I am fairly new to SUN. I have posted once before. I am stuck on naming my business.  Briefly: It`s a baking business (cookies) that is not brick and mortar. I will be baking and selling to local stores, bed and breakfasts and online. I would like to choose a name that carries over to the web. I know how to do a url search (which I`ve done). I am more concerned with down the road if it got bigger. I know that lrg corporations can stop you if you do anything that resembles what they do. I took a food business startup class and found out you can be bitten down the road. (ie; if my last name was "Fields" or "Mcdonald"). In the class they spoke of a woman who started an organic dog food business and got quite far with it. She got the food onto shelves, etc. Her packaging had a cute little dog with a red and white checked scarf on. Five years into her successful business she got a nice little letter from Purina`s lawyers....end of business. Do I hire a patent attorney? How do I protect myself and cover my tracks? I`ve got a name that checks out as unused in my state and on the web. What is my next step? Thanks so much

Joan2006-11-16 17:37:18
CraigL

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Nov 16, 2006 6:09 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You`re getting too caught up in what could happen, what might happen, what the future holds, and so forth. :-D Relax! Life isn`t that hard; it`s supposed to be fun! Sure there are some concerns, but what about having some names first, THEN worrying about what might go wrong?

If you want to reduce the chance of being caught by someone else, don`t use a person`s name for the business. What`s special about your cookies? How do you think you`re going to stand out from the world of other bakers and cookie makers?

For example, suppose you make your cookies out of flour you grind yourself. You could call the company, "Home-Ground Cookies." The point is to figure out first what`s your unique differentiator. From there, maybe we can do some brainstorming about the business name.

Is there a regional tie-in, like "Atlanta`s Finest" or other geographic connection? What about ingredients, like Steve`s gluten-free cookies? Is there a unique target market, or some particular flavor you`ve found? What about the reason you decided to start a cookie business; that might open up some ideas too.

:-)
CraigL2006-11-16 18:9:45
Joan

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Nov 16, 2006 6:27 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks CraigL, good input. I have read some of those tips in various business publications but have now been reminded of them. I wish I had someone to brainstorm with besides a friend or neighbor. It`s a little awkward to post questions. I would like to just sit down with someone and speak freely. I`m full of ideas but need a mentor, so to speak. Preferably one that doesn`t charge too much.  I will consider all of the questions you posed. Thanks again, Joan 
CraigL

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Nov 16, 2006 8:45 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Awkward it may be, but what`s your alternative if you don`t have that brainstorming partner? Write out some of the things that come to mind from the questions, and I`ll bet a number of SuN members will have ideas. I know we just did this not so long back, regarding a content manager.

It sounds to me as if you`re trying to figure out ways to avoid getting started. :-) hmm? Maybe a little? It`s a "fear of success" syndrome, commonly known, well understood, and it totally sucks. That`s because the person who`s having the fear really doesn`t think it`s a fear. They perceive it as being "practical," and "considering all the options."

The bottom line is nothing actually gets done, as everything is all being planned...for a long time. I`m guilty of it to some extent, which is why I recognize some of the same aspects in you. :-)
Joan

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Nov 16, 2006 9:25 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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CraigL: I think you might have hit a bullseye. I am going on year 7 of planning. What I could have done in 7 years. Let me think about some of the questions you posed. I do have answers. Thanks, Joan
keycon

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Nov 16, 2006 10:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Joan,

Craig has made some excellent observations so I won`t rehash his points. Let`s get on with it and get a name you like so you can "Start It Up."

You live in a beautiful state - Oregon - with lots of beauty and some excellent Pinot Noir wine (Archery Summit is heaven). I visited a couple of years ago and also made the long drive to Crater Lake - something I wish everyone could see - absolutely breathtaking! If I`d known you were just down the road, I would have stopped in to say hello

People know Crater Lake. How about Crater Lake Bakery? The domain is available, too - www.craterlakebakery.com. You also live near Siskiyou Mountain State Park - how `bout Siskiyou Mountain Bakery - www.siskiyoumtbakery.com? Also available. Or siskiyoubakery.com? Available. Get my drift? You spoke of starting off local, selling to stores and B&Bs and then online. Why not go for names that express the beauty of Oregon? Wonderful cookies with a beautiful name that taste like nature.

I don`t pretend to think that any of these names are the ones you will choose - just trying to show you that this is the easy part. Knock this task out and get on with it. You can do it.

Keep us posted. And there is a "law" at SuN that you have to send all members a free sample of cookies once you launch. It`s called the Cookie Law. I`m not kidding. Read the SuN Forum By Laws. Section VI, Article 11, paragraph 3.

BTW - who do you flew with as a F/A?

R@

 



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CraigL

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Nov 17, 2006 12:24 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Note that "Archery Summit" doesn`t at all bring to mind wine, or Pinot Noire! And yet, did anyone question it? Imagine what it was like when that family sat around trying to figure out a name for their business! :-D

Richard is correct in the fact that anyone starting a cookie (or food) business on Startup Nation.com is required to provide a free sample to all community members. It was a simple majority decision, and was written into the bylaws.

hmm....I really kind of like that Crater Lake thing.... My brother lives in Coos Bay, and has pictures of some fantastical rock pillars on the ocean coast. In a sort of play on words, I can envision "Stone Goddess Cookies." :-) Y`know?

What else can we do...there`s location, what about favorite things? Joan, can you think of anything that you remember with great fondness from your childhood, or the past? Something that carries strong and joyful meaning to you especially?
Joan

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Nov 17, 2006 1:06 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Although Archery Summit wouldn`t normally conjure up images of wine, it`s not a giant leap for me lately.  I have been reading the forum by laws and am unable to find the language that states the "cookie rule". Are you guys sure it`s section VI? Will keep searching.

Richard, you bring up some interesting ideas about a name. Ashland is known for the Shakespeare festival that brings many tourists. I can start there. (King Arthur`s Choc. Chip, Taming of the Sugar Cookie, Macbeth Melts, Twelfth Night Brownies). Shakespeare probably has some pretty good lawyers though.  I guess I really need to figure out what I want my identity to be. It is true that Oregon is a beautiful place. I will give your ideas some thought.  BTW, United.

Craig, I do have some things that bring me joy. I am going to do some brainstorming while at work today. Thanks for all of your input. I have waited too long in sharing my anguish. All of the members get cookies? Are you also from Oregon? (a brother in Coos Bay).

The current name in the running is Sweet Waldo or Sweet Waldos. Waldo is my son`s middle name and his late Grandfather`s first name. (Yes, the photo is of a boy). The name allows me to add other sweets to my menu. (Is that overthinking it)? The name has not been taken yet. Thanks again, Joan

 

Joan2006-11-17 9:26:0
MNGrillGuy

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Nov 17, 2006 10:33 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Joan, if you post what exactly you are offering you will get plenty of free advice right here!  SuN members are some of the best and brightest in field of entrepreneurship.  Much wisdom from formal education, experience and mostly the school of hard knocks.

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Travis Tschepen
Hibachi Bros. LLC

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frndchps

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Nov 17, 2006 4:16 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I find that when brainstorming great catchy brand names, buying multiple $10.oo domain name ideas let`s me choose without making a rushed decision, and I can discard later. Just thinking of your first choice, maybe SweetWaldoBakery.com is a great fit. And funny thing trying to find you if customers inquire "Where`s SweetWaldo?" That`s my name finder secret. Buy what you like, cheap, and then choose the perfect fit. 
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