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houseofjerkyjanie

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Feb 08, 2008 6:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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After reading some of the posts on coaching and mentoring, I was just wondering... what qualifies someone to be a Coach or Mentor, to ALL different types of businesses?
 
 
houseofjerkyjanie2/9/2008 9:28 PM
houseofjerkyjanie

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Feb 09, 2008 9:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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As you start your business, or as it grows and changes, who would you consider adding to your team? Someone in marketing, public relations, someone to be a mentor, or  a business coach? 
 
 
Janie
 
 
houseofjerkyjanie2/10/2008 6:44 AM
RicWillmot

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Feb 10, 2008 4:12 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Coaches who say they are accredited ... my question to you is, who accredits the accreditors?
Coaching accreditations are worthless.
Ask these questions instead:
  1. Has the coach actually done successfully what you want to do?
  2. Who else has the coach assisted successfully that has significant repute?
  3. What body of work has the coach themelves created around the area of assistance you seek?
I have had over 200 graduates successfully go through my Mentor Program from all around the world. I pre-qualify every one of them to ensure that:
  1. I want them as a mentoree (not evceryone will be somone I want to help)
  2. I can significantly improve their results (I have the necessary skills and experience to help)
  3. I believe they will be disciplined and determined to do what is necessary to iumprove (I don`t pat heads and rub tummies telling people that it is okay they didn`t achieve success)
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houseofjerkyjanie

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Feb 12, 2008 10:19 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for your response Ric.  I guess, what I was asking for was  a clearer understanding of what one does as a mentor or a coach, and what qualifies them to do so.  I appreciated your answer, and visited your site.  Looks like you`ve been very succesful, in your Mentor Program . 
 
I assume, as you suggested, it would be smart for everyone to ask the appropriate questions, of anyone that is offering any type of coaching or mentoring program for their business.   I guess I was thinking someone in Marketing or Pr, have degrees.  But, they might not have the business knowledge to be a mentor or a coach, right?
 
Janie 
houseofjerkyjanie

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Feb 12, 2008 10:23 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Before, I get myself in trouble.....  I`m sure you probably have many degrees, Ric.  I didn`t mean that at all.  I just don`t believe their is a Mentor or Coach degree, is there?
That is all I meant. 
houseofjerkyjanie2/12/2008 10:30 PM
RicWillmot

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Feb 12, 2008 10:38 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Janie,
You are exactly correct ... there is no historic body of work (referenced and validated) that can be taught and learned to become a qualified coach or mentor as there is to become a lawyer or a doctor. And most of the `coaching accreditations` I have been exposed to are nothing short of revenue generating processes for the accreditors with little or no significantly positive consequences for the end-users, those being the clients of their pupils.
 
I dissuade people from paying to become `accredited` as a coach.
 
If you were an IT entrepreneur and Bill Gates (who never finished college) offered to mentor you, would you refuse his guidance because he wasn`t accredited? At the same time, I cannot operate my cell phone adequately, but I do know, that with my level of intelligence, I could do a `coaching accreditation` course and pass one of their nebbish exams. You would not want me telling you zip about technology. You see my point?
 
If you are considering offering your services as a mentor or a coach, call upon your skills, knowledge and expertise, offer your best advice, focus on achieving results and outcomes for your clients, and remember the doctor`s creed: "First, do no harm."
 
Best of luck.
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houseofjerkyjanie

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Feb 12, 2008 11:06 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I do see your point, Ric. 

I`m not interested in  offering "MY" services as a mentor or a coach, maybe you were talking about others that do want to..  I`m just doing my own thing , :),and learning as I grow, and I am always learning from others here on Sun.
 
I was just inquiring. :)
 
Thanks for your answers Ric!
 
Janie
 
houseofjerkyjanie2/12/2008 11:13 PM
tinneka

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Hi Ric,
 
I see what you mean about accreditation. However, what about (formal) coach training? I think it`s one thing to look back on a wealth of professional experience, and another thing to be acquainted with the premises and tools of effective coaching.
 
As someone who worked for 10 years as an ad exec, and 15 years in management training and development, I think I have sufficient job experience to through onto the scales. However, in my later incarnation as a coach, the training gave me important insight into pulling my skills and experience together in a way that supports other people as they learn to help themselves.
 
Cheers!
 
Trina


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Jun 03, 2008 5:15 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I think the 2 things to be considered when we address this issue of qualification as a coach / mentor. First is experience, if you had 25 years of experience behind you in similar field than you are 80% percent qualified to be one as tinneka put it. Second is your referals, if you got two or more clients that said you had helped them to make more money than you are 100% qualified.
In Japanese companies, once you have had 20 years of experience, you will automatically be a mentor and may be assigned to develop some smaller ventures of the main companies to grow. Ric has correctly put that `call upon your skills`
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