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nothinglikeit

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Jan 10, 2007 2:56 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey all,  I`m sorry if this post comes off as a blog or whining. I just wanted to see if this was a fairly common thing in the working world.

I`ve only been a part of the "real world " for a few years now and already I want out.

I work as a teller. I``ve done so for almost 3 years now. For about a year my boss has been steadily piling more responsibilities on us. It started out by showing us how to set up simple savings accounts for our members. It has since graduated to we (the tellers myself included) helping the members solve fraud issues, ordering checks, filing loan requests and in some cases closing those loans. This used to be the work of a customer service rep but when one left and the other one got promoted they got smart and decided to teach the tellers to do the work but not pay us for said work. So I brought it up in a meeting, the bosses said "You`re all making strides toward this position and one day we hope to promote you to that role" I rebutt that we`re doing the work now and ask why we haven`t been paid for the work and when we would get promoted and get raises. They told me they don`t have a time frame.

Yesterday I get transfered to work at another branch. They do this quite often. Somedays I come to work, start working and get told i must balance and go help someone else. I never complain but I finally decide to let them hear about it. My boss responds in the most a*****ish (pardon my french) way possible.

He says "You go where we send you plain and simple" and "we`ve been nice enough to give you hours when school didn`t work out for you." Those were two of the most condesending things someone has EVER said to me.

summary:" my boss says he`s the boss i`m the pawn do as I say" Should I expect more of this from other employers or was I just lucky enough to get a jerk as a boss? Sorry for the length


(this post was edited by Joel Welsh only for a single unfriendly word)
Joel2007-1-15 8:36:32


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Jan 10, 2007 3:24 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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He says "You go where we send you plain and simple" and "we`ve been nice enough to give you hours when school didn`t work out for you." Those were two of the most condesending things someone has EVER said to me.

Wow, if this is the worst  .... then you`ve been having a fantastic life so far.
I would consider myself lucky that I would still be able to go to school and work at the same time. You`re going to school so you can get out of there right? Many companies might prevent you from going to school knowing that it will slow down your departure. Yes, things could be better, but they also could be a lot worse.

iouone2

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Jan 10, 2007 3:29 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Actually nothinglikeit.... You are right on the money if you count my experience. I have found VERY FEW employers who gave a damn about the feeling or long term desires of an employee. This includes many of the bosses who treat you with kindness. Can you imagine what they would really say if they were not being watched?

My wife had her employer tell a co-worker, "You are here to do what I tell you to do. If you don`t like it leave. I can find another worker by the end of the day."

My wife quit 5 days later due to her hearing this conversation. I just don`t understand that mentality.

You see, there is always another fish in the sea.

Do yourself a favor. If you want to work for someone else, be or do what they cannot be or do. That also is to say, be and do what others cannot, or will not do.

Otherwise, start on your life plan and create a business, niche, and happy way of living. I still float in and out of positions which I have a "boss." At least when you`re freelancing you can choose your greatest partners/employers.

I would love to work for someone else if my talents were really appreciated by them. The problem is, you never know who`s blowin smoke up your butt so they don`t have to rehire. It`s easy for people to lie nowadays.

Boss says, "Great job today! Tomorrow I might have to ask for your help moving these desks and boxes. I know you`re really the phone operator here, but can you help between calls?"

What do you think he`s really saying?
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CrossCountry

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Jan 10, 2007 4:07 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Personally, I would learn everything I can about everything there is to know in your industry no matter what it takes.

Then I would take that good, solid experience with me somewhere else for higher pay and more education in the field you`re in.

Bosses [for the most part] will always be the same so gain the experience and accomplish everything you can.

Be happy but never completely satisfied or you`ll stagnate somewhere along the line.  And never think you know everything there is either or you`ll stop learning and let yourself down.

My motto is to keep my ears and eyes open and my mouth shut.  Not only will you not make a fool of yourself but you`ll learn very quickly who does.

 



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iouone2

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Jan 10, 2007 4:54 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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CrossCountry... Perfect advice.

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AddassaMari

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Jan 10, 2007 5:19 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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the bosses said "You`re all making strides toward this position and one day we hope to promote you to that role".

Think of all the extra "work" as on the job training.  Don`t worry so much about the pay.  When your PE (performance evaluation) time rolls around, just make sure the "extras" are noted and that you are being evaluated accordingly. Put yourself in a better negotating position for future openings.  Should you apply for a position for which you are qualified (PE) and don`t get, they will have to justify not giving you position.  So use the "extra" work experience to build a killer resume.

 



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CrossCountry

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Jan 10, 2007 5:48 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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To iouone2, thanks! 

"Do yourself a favor. If you want to work for someone else, be or do what they cannot be or do. That also is to say, be and do what others cannot, or will not do."

I could not have said it better myself.  People are not irreplaceable but if you`ve got something no one else does, you`ll be more marketable and companies will be hard-pressed to find it again if you leave.

Don`t be afraid to outdo or outperform others.  Drive and ambition are seldom seen in the work place these days ~ you WILL draw attention.  [Sometimes good, sometimes bad.]

"You are here to do what I tell you to do. If you don`t like it leave. "

I worked for someone once who told me, "I pay you and I can talk to you any way I like."

I had spent a couple years working for him and taking his "orders" and his BS talk and bullying ways, so I walked out, never to return.

Now, he`s a client of mine ~ LOL ~ and pays a higher premium to "talk to me any way he likes" but he doesn`t.

I think, for some, they have to respect the level you`re on first before they treat you right.  As a business owner, I am now his equal and he tells me all the time he couldn`t do what he`s doing without me.

I don`t recommend walking out just because someone doesn`t treat you right, however.  That`s not the point I was trying to make, nothinglikeit.

There is no such thing as "instant gratification" if you want to get anywhere in this life.  Nine times out of ten what you thought you wanted [and got] doesn`t turn out the way you thought it would be.

Be patient until you have the experience and confidence to make the next move.  The long, hard battle is well-worth the struggle to get through it.

 



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Raisecapital02

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Jan 10, 2007 6:03 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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More and more businesses are doing this to lower employee pay rate percent. Fortunately, it is the better way to find which employees will do the job or quit the job, so they can hire new people with these responsibilities in place already.
CrossCountry

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Jan 10, 2007 6:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Raisecapital02 ~ if you`re talking about eliminating high-dollar employees to save a buck, I agree.  It`s too bad, but it IS a fact of life and happens all the time.  But no one has to bully someone into leaving.  There are plenty of ways to do it without demeaning the employee.

The SMART manager will be able to recognize talent and add/subtract responsibilities based on the level he wants you to be at next but will also treat you with decency and respect at every step so you can trust him/her to ease you into it without major problems.

Creating a job profile is not an easy task because not everyone considered for the position will fit the duties so often-times it`s necessary to adjust it to the employee.

The smart manager will also know when the level of performance of an employee is below par and deal with it accordingly.  Being honest and up-front is best. 

Something to consider as well ~employees are always worried about the reference they`re going to get from their past employers.

What alot of people don`t think about is that managers get a reference, too.  Especially if the employee gets hired by a competitor within the industry.  Someday that  "bully" may need a character reference from the same employee he pushed out the door.

People talk.  And that`s a fact of life, too. 

 



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keycon

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Jan 10, 2007 10:23 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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NLI.

I suggest you read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie if you have not already done so in your life. If necessary, read it several times. Adopt the teachings and lessons. As you continue through life, uses these principals, life will become better for you - it just will. Do not let people like your boss impede your growth as a productive and happy human. He will not be the last of his kind that you will encounter if you are lucky enough to live a long life. Prepare yourself with a positive mental attitude and you will be unstoppable.

Short term - move on. Good tellers are hard to find.

R@

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