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sallygray

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Dec 11, 2007 1:25 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I am at a crossroads. I have pinpointed my dream, researched how to make a living from my passion, have a business plan, met with SBA, secured signature loans, etc., etc., all the way to leasing my space and displaying my certificate of occupancy. Now, it`s time for the big investment — the one for equipment. I am looking at somewhere between $45-$55,000. I already know I can lease the equipment and use payments for tax advantage, I even have cash for operating expenses for sometime, and an IRA and some stock I can cash in if need be. But, here is the fork in the road. I am feeling anxious and troubled by committing myself to a large, monthly lease payment — in addition to all the other business expenses as well as my home expenses. I am a person who takes commitment seriously and when I give my word to something (like paying for equipment), I keep it, but the uneasiness makes me want to look at other options. Ones I feel better about. So, I come to SUN. I`ve been reading about Angel Investors and wonder if that`s the way to go. I also wonder what steps I take to find them, if there`s an average percentage of the business they want etc. And, is there such a thing as someone or company who helps others by investing money in their company to avoid paying taxes on that amount. Thank you for any help you can give to this presently questioning but future successful business owner.
sallygray12/11/2007 1:31 PM
robertj

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Dec 11, 2007 1:54 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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sallygray,
 
It`s always good to evaluate options before choosing a direction. Consider the following:
  • While paying cash for your equipment may "feel" more comfortable to you - it might not be the optimum business approach
  • Investment capital is not exactly "free" money. It is usually "expensive" - long term.
  • Having an investor (or more) may (usually) changes the way you do things.
  • If you take the commitment seriously - how will you feel about having an investor?

There are numerous ways to acquire capital, so consider your options and choose the one that is most comfortable for you.



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sallygray

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Dec 11, 2007 3:33 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thank you for your answer. Are there other ways to acquire capital besides loans, angel investors, cash? There are venture capitalists, but I thought those were for much larger companies than mine and for companies that had already proved their income-worthiness. If there are more, do tell. I am all ears. :-) And, again, thank you.
robertj

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Dec 11, 2007 7:33 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Debt capital comes in many forms including loans, line of credit and leasing.
 
Investors usually purchase securities which can a debt instrument, equity (ownership) in the company or other type of security.
 
The possibilities are numerous - although not all will apply to any one specific situation. We believe that a key to success is to find your optimum funding method.
 
 
 
 
   
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CraigL

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Dec 11, 2007 8:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Your post is interesting from a psychological perspective. You say you`re passionate about this business, but it sounds as if you`re afraid to "put it all on the line," so to speak.

Yes, you could get an outside investor and "keep" the $55K somewhere in your pocket for emergencies, a buffer, or a safety net. But you`d likely be giving up equity in your company and putting yourself under someone else`s more direct control.

If you`re paying on a lease, you`re still under the debt-holder`s control, but not as immediately as with an investor. But setting all that aside, the one thing that runs common to all entrepreneurs is their commitment to a sort of "do or die" game. It`s no-holds-barred, pedal to the metal, damn the torpedoes, and full-speed ahead. :-) (I hope I didn`t leave out anyone`s favorite cliche?)

Many entrepreneurs do this sort of jumping in without first doing their homework. So they go broke and lose their investment. But even those who`ve done the work, and have a solid business plan---they too have to choose which fork in the road they`ll take, where it comes to risks.

Why are you pausing at this point? Do  you feel (operative word) that your product isn`t all that great, probably won`t succeed, and that you`re going to dump in all kinds of money for no return? Are you trying to minimize your losses by foisting them off onto someone who can seemingly afford those losses?

In other words, are you "dressing for failure," not success?
Roblue

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Dec 11, 2007 9:18 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Your post is interesting from a psychological perspective. You say you`re passionate about this business, but it sounds as if you`re afraid to "put it all on the line," so to speak.

Yes, you could get an outside investor and "keep" the $55K somewhere in your pocket for emergencies, a buffer, or a safety net. But you`d likely be giving up equity in your company and putting yourself under someone else`s more direct control.

If you`re paying on a lease, you`re still under the debt-holder`s control, but not as immediately as with an investor. But setting all that aside, the one thing that runs common to all entrepreneurs is their commitment to a sort of "do or die" game. It`s no-holds-barred, pedal to the metal, damn the torpedoes, and full-speed ahead. :-) (I hope I didn`t leave out anyone`s favorite cliche?)

Many entrepreneurs do this sort of jumping in without first doing their homework. So they go broke and lose their investment. But even those who`ve done the work, and have a solid business plan---they too have to choose which fork in the road they`ll take, where it comes to risks.

Why are you pausing at this point? Do  you feel (operative word) that your product isn`t all that great, probably won`t succeed, and that you`re going to dump in all kinds of money for no return? Are you trying to minimize your losses by foisting them off onto someone who can seemingly afford those losses?

In other words, are you "dressing for failure," not success?


As usual CraigL hit my issue right on point.  There is a lot of unease that seeps from your post.  I believe if you take some time to seriously contemplate these questions you could very well get to the bottom of your feelings.

I would also like to emphasize the fact that there is no such thing as free money.  As my experience has taught me, every venue of available funding has it own set of conditions; however repayment is inevitable whatever form it takes.

What financial options have you identified that ideally suits your demands?
RabbitMountain

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Dec 12, 2007 12:50 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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sallygray —

I totally understand where you`re coming from (though for different reasons).

Here`s a question for you... is there any possibility of farming out whatever it is this equipment will do? For a few months at least, until you`ve got the purchase orders lined up to feel safe enough about the lease commitment?

Or, instead of an outside investor, perhaps there is another entrepreneur in town who might be willing to pick up some portion of the lease payment in exchange for access to it at your property? Or perhaps a customer willing to place a long-term order so that you know where at least some of the money to cover the payments will come from?

It sounds to me like what you need to ease your mind is security. Certainly no one can do away with the risks of starting up any business, but there are probably creative ways to manage that risk without forking over control to someone else.

—paula
winston2

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Dec 12, 2007 1:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I appreciate the fact that you are concerned about the financial responsibility you will take on in your new business enterprise, but if you are serious about getting into business that lease payment should be the least of your worries. Five year building lease, 70 hour work weeks, payroll , advertising costs, and no payday for you for the next few years. These are things that should be worrying you. Any one of these can cost you two or three times what that equipment lease will cost.
 
It may help some of us if we knew what type of business you are starting.
Have you looked for used equipment?
 
sallygray

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Dec 13, 2007 1:49 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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   You know, that`s really funny. The potential 70-hour work week,  no payday, building  lease, etc. are not a concern at all. I am only concerned with paying back the things I owe and the rest will come. It`s just the matter or owing other people that bothers me for some reason. Commitment phobia, I guess.
   Ah, my business ... I am opening a K9 aquatic & fitness club called Sally`s Place Aquatic & Fitness Center for Dogs. It was named for a greyhound, AOK Speedy Sally, of mine who inspired me to open the place after she died from bone cancer. I had wished there was somewhere like this for her, so now there will be for other people and their dogs.
 There I will have an underwater treadmill ($40,000), a jacuzzi and lap pool. Since I am not a vet or a vet tech, I cannot claim I am doing therapy or giving any sort of medical treatments, yet many studies have shown that hydrotherapy is instrumental in the healing process after surgeries, helps dogs who are having a hard time walking, etc. But, since I am not a medical clinic — though some of people may bring dogs needing that type of treatment (with their vets` OK) —I am focusing more on building muscle tone, exercise, weight loss, and helping ease the pain from arthritis and other aging-related conditions.       
   This type of hydrotherapy is also good to keep hunting dogs, agility dogs and show dogs in tip top condition.
   The jacuzzi is for relaxation, to soothe tense muscles and  bond with their owners. Plus, it does wonders for the owners, too. Both treatments will serve to either relax or tire the dog out which will help eliminate behavior problems and acting out at home.
   The pool is for exercise and some of the above mentioned reasons, plus it`s for FUN.
   I will have a lot of exposure due to my many contacts. So many people already want to add me (my business) to their websites, etc. It`s likely that I will have too many clients rather than too few.
   Other things I have in the works there are: having grief-support groups, massage and doing canine behavior counseling. I also intend to have a groomer there (who will pay me rent) and another person, either a massage person or acupuncturist. I`ll offer birthday parties, memorial services, breed-group play dates and allow breed-rescue groups to do  adoptions there. Some will pay a fee, some will not but it will still get people in to my place.
   This Sunday, I am meeting with a pet photographer who is interested in renting space for a photo studio.
 Sally`s Place is a cute little house that was built between 1890 and 1910. It is now zoned for special use. It`s located on a busy, busy street in an up-and-coming suburb of Dallas where a lot of new building is taking place. I saw a sign recently advertising new home sites nearby starting at $500,000 and going to $2 million.
   Other ideas bubble up all the time, but these are the ones I can think of at the moment.
   I appreciate everyone`s help and insight. Please, keep `em coming. I learn something from each of your posts. I intend to get back to each of you individually, time permitting. But, with a new business and all. ... Well, you understand. :-)  Susan
PS Yes, I have looked for used equipment, but with a field so new, there isn`t any available.

CraigL

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Dec 13, 2007 5:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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So the bottom line is that you want to start a business with zero debt. :-) Good if you have some outside source of income, an inheritance, or you`re independently wealthy. Otherwise, you have a simple choice: Accept the debt and work hard to meet your obligations, or abandon the business and work for someone else.
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