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Jennifer

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Jan 24, 2007 3:47 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi folks.  I started a company called The Cozy Cookie Company and sell gourmet cookies online with the domain name www.cozycookies.com.  I had a logo designed with the phrase "CozyCookies.com" that I display on my website and on my cookie packaging and on my brochures.  After I spent a fair sum on my venture I found out there is a company called Edson Wright selling a toy called a "Cozycookie."  The have a registered trademark for "CozyCookie."  They also have a website and the domain name differs from mine by only a single letter: www.cozycookie.com.  I opened for business last September and have not noticed much confusion from customers.  Our logos look different.  Our products are different.  Anyway, the Edson Wright Company have just discovered me and are concerned that our websites are so similar and that our product has a nearly identical name.  When I searched for the domain name I wanted, I did not think to look if any similar names like theirs was in use.  My question:  Am I infringing on their trademark?  I have not filed for a trademark of my own.

Jennifer2007-2-3 1:57:6
Steve

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Jan 24, 2007 5:05 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I can`t say if you`re infringing but I can say that if they had been smart they would have also taken the plural domain name at the same time they took the singular.

There are some very good attorneys active on SUN who specialize in IP issues. I`m sure they could help guide you.

If you`re willing to share the experience, would you mind posting updates on this thread as things progress or when it`s resolved?

From one cookie maker to another, I wish you all the best.


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Jennifer

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Jan 24, 2007 5:16 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thank you.  I`ll try to keep the thread updated with any new info.  I just started sifting through the USPTO`s website, trying to figure out how to apply for a trademark and how much it will cost me.
ujeans

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Jan 24, 2007 7:30 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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It is likely that since you know about them, they know about you!  This could be a good marketing opportunity for both of you (and you can clear up the confusion).  Maybe you should have links to each other on your sites.


This would clear up any confusion each customer could have and you two would make for great allies.

I would suggest some investigative research into this when you’re ready, though the cat maybe out of the bag.  Since you’ve made this posting you’re increasing the likelihood that they’ll find you/contact first.

Here’s what I’d plan.  Get a friend to call you and then have them conference in the other CC company.  This way you’ve kept private you phone number (less tracking).  Try to get one of the owners on the phone (since this is a small company you may get lucky).  Explain to them that you wanted to get more information on their company, but when you did the Google search you came across another CC company.  I think you’ll be able to gauge their response.

Hopefully their response is of a positive nature and you can make an introductory call soon after with the your linking offer.  Please keep us up-to-date on your situation.

Good luck!



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Daniel the Denim Doctor
patentandtrademark

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Jan 24, 2007 10:49 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I don`t know that there is ever an easy answer to such a question.  I would engage an attorney that works in the area of trademark law.

How much money would you lose if you were forced to close up shop?



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Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
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ElidS

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Jan 24, 2007 12:57 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You could be infringing, but then again maybe not. The best way to find out for sure is to file for your own trademark, if it is approved clearly you are not infringing. Filing for a trademark is relatively inexpensive, it can be done for a lot less than just `talking` to an attorney on this matter. If you get a letter from these other folks asking you to stop using their Trademark, whether you agree or not stop using it to prevent any future liabilities. As I understand it you are not liable until you are notified by them, although that would have to be determined in a court of law. A lot cheaper to just desist using it until your own trademark is approved.

From the USPTO
LEGAL AND PROCEDURAL REVIEW OF APPLICATION

After the USPTO determines that you have met the minimum filing requirements, the application is forwarded to an examining attorney. This may take a number of months. The examining attorney reviews the application to determine whether it complies with all applicable rules and statutes and includes all required fees. Federal registration of trademarks is governed by the Trademark Act of 1946, 15 U.S.C. §1051 et seq., and the Trademark Rules of Practice, 37 C.F.R. Part 2.

A complete examination includes a search for conflicting marks, and an examination of the written application, the drawing, and any specimen.

If the examining attorney decides that a mark should not be registered, the examining attorney will issue a letter (Office action) explaining any substantive reasons for refusal, and any technical or procedural deficiencies in the application. If only minor corrections are required, the examining attorney may contact the applicant by telephone or e-mail (if the applicant has authorized communication by e-mail). If the examining attorney sends an Office action, the applicant’s response to the Office action must be received in the Office within six months of the mailing date of the Office action, or the application will be declared abandoned.

If the applicant`s response does not overcome all objections, the examining attorney will issue a final refusal. To attempt to overcome a final refusal, the applicant may, for an additional fee, appeal to the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, an administrative tribunal within the USPTO.

Does the examining attorney search for conflicting marks?

Yes. After an application is filed, the assigned examining attorney will search the USPTO records to determine if a conflict, i.e., a likelihood of confusion, exists between the mark in the application and another mark that is registered or pending in the USPTO. The USPTO will not provide any preliminary search for conflicting marks before an applicant files an application. The principal factors considered by the examining attorney in determining whether there would be a likelihood of confusion are:

  • the similarity of the marks; and
  • the commercial relationship between the goods and/or services listed in the application.

To find a conflict, the marks do not have to be identical, and the goods and/or services do not have to be the same. It may be enough that the marks are similar and the goods and/or services related.

If a conflict exists between your mark and a registered mark, the examining attorney will refuse registration on the ground of likelihood of confusion. If a conflict exists between your mark and a mark in a pending application that was filed before your application, the examining attorney will notify you of the potential conflict. If the earlier-filed application registers, the Examining Attorney will refuse registration of your mark on the ground of likelihood of confusion.

That said, if you get your own trademark the USPTO is granting you the right to go on using the name. Therefor you would not be liable.

ElidS2007-1-24 12:59:42
patentandtrademark

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Jan 24, 2007 1:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Having a trademark registration does NOT provide protection for a charge of trademark infringement.  Your trademark infringement liability is NOT related to the time you receive any kind of notice.

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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
ElidS

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Jan 24, 2007 1:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi James,

Thank you for posting that follow up, I was hoping you would correct that in case I was wrong. That`s why I said "As I understand it" making it clear it is `my understanding` not a fact.

See.... THAT is how one should respond when stating something may or may not be correct. Instead some people choose to be obtuse and continue digging themselves into a hole from where they can`t get themselves out off.   ;-) lol


pepperlegal

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Jan 24, 2007 2:03 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Jennifer,

Because your respective marks fall under different classes of goods/services, my sense is that an infringement claim from the other company would be tough to sustain.  The other possibility is that you have "diluted" the other company`s mark under the very recent Federal Trademark Dilution Act.  Dilution differs from normal trademark infringement in that there is no need to prove a likelihood of confusion to protect a mark. Instead, all that is required is that use of a "famous" mark by a third party causes the dilution of the "distinctive quality" of the mark.  What constitutes a "famous" mark is the subject of a multi-part test, and I would need to conduct a thorough review of Cozy Cookie mark to provide an answer on the dilution question.

This is just designed for general info, since I cannot provide specific legal advice on these boards.


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patentandtrademark

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Jan 24, 2007 2:25 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Jennifer:

The sixth circuit [where I practice law the most] uses the following factors to determine such questions:

1) strength of mark;

2) similarity between the marks;

3) relatedness of goods;

4) marketing channels used;

5) likely degree of purchaser care;

6) defendant’s intent in selecting the mark;

7) evidence of actual confusion; and

8) likelihood of expansion of product line.

Notice that what the USPTO thinks is not listed.  The USPTO has no legal jurisdiction in this type of question.  In posting this, I ain`t just cutting and pasting something I found from the internet that I think might be entertaining to take up space.  There are a few people on this list that think nothing of throwing out a trial balloon of legal advice with no thought.  Be careful out there.

patentandtrademark2007-1-24 14:43:44


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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
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