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TEREL

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May 08, 2009 12:54 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi,

I`m new to the community, but what a fantastic group of people, full of dreams and ideas.  I am "older" and I`ve been around and have an idea of building a business around technology innovations that will reduce energy demands.  I have a very big vision to begin a revolution one small customer at a time.  What I have noticed through the years is that a lot of technology exists and goes untapped until a large corporation takes it on, but with the advent and advancement of the internet, could good ideas be put out there to both make profit and make a difference in the world?  I don`t have a lot of money to put into a particular product, nor contacts (at the moment) to rely on vast amounts of exposure and capital.  Am I just an altruistic dreamer?  
CraigL

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May 08, 2009 1:31 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Terel :-) Welcome to the community.

Consider something like YouTube, which began as a simple idea and didn`t cost a whole lot of money to develop. With luck, marketing, and a good idea, the concept caught on. Then Google bought it.

Using the music industry for analogies, consider the way a band becomes famous. Today, the seemingly "typical" way is that the band records a demo, sends it to a Big Corporate recording company and hopes for a contract.

If the Big Corporate recording company takes the band, they make that band famous with marketing, promotion, concerts, and so forth.

But the other way that used to be the only way was for a band to go out and play. Anywhere! They`d play high schools, clubs, picnics, county fairs, or wherever else they could play. When they had enough money, they recorded a single record with 2 songs, one on each side. They sold that "single" direct to the public.

Many of those bands developed a tremendous following, and the recording companies then saw a clear and proven concept. Only at that point did the Big Corporate record companies come gathering around, offering contracts.

Technology is different from music, particularly with regard to patents and trade secrets. It`s also different in the amount of initial investment, making prototypes, and developing quantity inventories. But to address your question, I think it`s possible to sell direct to the public, even with technology.

If you really do have a great product, and there really is a market for it, then that`s why venture capitalists and outside investors exist.
CraigL2009-5-8 13:32:38
TEREL

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May 08, 2009 2:35 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks so much for the encouraging words Craig, and it`s strange you should use the old music industry formula as an example.  One of the business strategies I`m considering is to go back in time and use some old but proven methods, start small, manufacture locally, sell locally, and build to a bigger market.  Not that I`m against progress, but as the recent economy has demonstrated, we can progress in the wrong direction.
jennielou

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May 08, 2009 5:33 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Dear Terel, 

Greetings, I don`t frequent StartupNation very much but I did start here .. I am still in what is considered a start up period; nevertheless, I did experiece this forum and sometimes will stop in very infrequently .. I sometimes make use of this network and quite a few others for various things .. Support wise I found that I do much better with Ecademy.com and I have been networking there very much and often. I put my website up on line July 2008. I have a better idea of what shape the world is in via discussions with a varitey of peoples Globally .. I am still learning and experiencing a great many things ... and making mistakes - but since they are only mistakes its all good .. and I have my feet wet and I have gone on to start communications with people that are working in UNESCO and the UN .. real people - and have gotten to participate in at least one UNESCO sponsored discussion online ... 

I have created about 3000 entries into Google at present and its all Organic SEO as that is preferable .. I have enjoyed what I have been learning and in developing new connections in US and Internationally ... developing this business is the absolute best thing ever and I smile more frequently .. I have business contacts that are forming and I am helping quite a few people ... Smiling never felt so good and life takes on a new meaning ... I do hope that you will dive right in as the water is fine and people really are very good .. they are human .. 

Slowly people are coming to my website and courses are being created .. Interest has sparked in more than one person or group since I went up online .. 

Best in your endeavors, 

Jennie
http://getsmartmoodle.org
jennie@getsmartmoodle.org
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Virginia Louise Lawrence
nevadascul

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May 09, 2009 1:33 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Terel,

Here`s a success story from the book publishing industry.  Most publishers (all for practical purposes) will not publish a book by an unknown author.  You first have to be an established author, but you have to get published to get established.  It`s the old catch 22. 

Well, an unknown author wrote a book called "The Barnstorming Mustanger."  No publishing house would touch the book because the author was not "established."  So the author paid a printing company to produce 50 copies.  The author then hand delivered the books to various stores and gifts shops within a hundred miles of where he lived.  The book was so popular, that the author soon had 100 more copies made.  Eventually, the book developed a large following.
nevadascul5/9/2009 3:18 PM


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The older we get, the more excuses we make for not chasing after our dreams. But truth is, goals are attainable at any age.
nevadascul

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May 09, 2009 3:14 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I looked up Ecademy on line and found numerous post.  Many of the post that favored Ecademy appeared to have been written by ecademy.  The below links are non-Ecademy reviews.  These reviews and a third in Ripoff Report do not paint a very good picture of Ecademy.  I should also not that I looked at the site.  It encourages members to solicit friends and associates to join for increased menber benefits. 
 
 
 
I also found these post from members at the link below
 
i found ecademy to be garbage... i feel like 90% of the people on the site are internet marketers... with nobody to sell to haha
 
I just notice this recently, free member can no longer post profile comments. So Ecademy, really wants you to purchase a star.
 
Well Ecademy is quite good website and i found it good if you want to make some business relation you can expand your group and share the knowledge. You can publish blogs and so many things you can do there.

://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1324411
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The older we get, the more excuses we make for not chasing after our dreams. But truth is, goals are attainable at any age.
jennielou

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May 09, 2009 3:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I only do free ecademy because I can not afford the costs .. and free ecademy has been very benificial to me .. I do not try to bring in new people because I really have not tried to ever get to know that many people before n my life; but online it is easier and different .. but I have gotten to have and know a few people from ecademy since and the experiences have been very good .. and helpful .. some have freely helped me in ways more than in just words words words .. actions have spoken louder than words .. I also help freely in return as best I can .. and provide services that are benificial and useful as they also try to aid me in my endeavors .. Ecademy has been an overall good experience .. I reccomend free ecademy very much .. 

Jennie 
http://getsmartmoodle.org



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Virginia Louise Lawrence
CraigL

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May 09, 2009 5:08 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Another major success story from the publishing industry is Vince Flynn. He too had a book that nobody would touch. He had hundreds of rejections because he was an unknown.

So he took his manuscript around to friends and family, had them read it, and then asked for some investment money to self publish. Taking that, he wrote to his latest potential publisher and asked them sincerely if they would please reject his book as soon as possible. :-) And of course they did.

Taking the money he`d put together, he self-published I think 2,000 copies...maybe more...of "Term Limits," that first book. He released it in the Minneapolis area, and it quickly became a local best-seller

Given the sudden notoriety and local new reports, a number of publishers suddenly got interested. From there, he took a contract and re-released "Term Limits." That went on to sell well, and he wrote the next book.

Vince Flynn is now approaching super-stardom, having sold the film rights to his Mitch Rapp character.
BigIdea

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May 11, 2009 2:51 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You can do it if you really commit yourself to the project. Many of the most successful businesses were built on helping people and improving things. Yours can be too.
 
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