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Rmoss

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Dec 15, 2006 1:50 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`ve read many of the discussions tha go on here, but this is the first time that I`ve posted anything. I need some advice on how I can possibly move my business forward. I have a unique home security device that I invented and have been producing and selling for several years now on a part time basis. I`ve sold a few thousand of these devices, but have never really been able to get the business over the proverdial hump to really get it rolling. All my proceeds have gone back into the business for development, patents and operating costs.

I know that the market is there, but selling is truly my weakness, along with simply finding the time to make sales calls. I`m not sure where to go from here. My product is good and certainly seems to have great potential. So in my mind, I think I either need a big influx of cash to spend on marketing, or I need to find a mfgr. rep. Any ideas on how to get this off dead center would certainly be welcome.... Thanks



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Richard D. Moss
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Dec 15, 2006 5:36 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Richard,

I would recommend incorporating, and hire a sales person under a part-time basis. You pay him in shares of your corporation as an incentive. You need a good salesperson to develop a training manual on how to sell your product, so that if you start expanding, you can train new sales people as they come aboard.

robertj

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Dec 15, 2006 5:56 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If the only barrier to more sales is that you don`t have the tiime to make "sales calls" - then adding sales resources to your team might be the answer.

From experience, that is rarely the exact situation, so my advice would be to determine the barriers to increasing sales before investing a lot of time and money hiring sales people.

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Innovator7

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Dec 15, 2006 7:31 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I had a look at your devices.  IMHO it doesn`t solve big enough of a problem.

Yes there`re people who check and double check doors and windows, other leave their doors and garage doors open.

Now your device does detection of door close or open.  What if the detection is incorrect, i.e. it says a door is closed, but it`s actually UNLOCKED.  Aha!  Your device needs to detect the STATUS of the LOCK and not of the door.  My friend, way back then I had to write an MBA class paper about a device/product and its marketing plan.  It was an alarm system that I would posit to be better than yours.  Recently I have an even better idea.  But of course I won`t tell.  One important rule about invention is not to fall in love with any of them.  If it doesn`t make money, dump it and move to the next thing.




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Rmoss

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Dec 16, 2006 12:48 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for the great replys. I started with the garage door indicator,because it appeals to the largest segment of the market due to the low cost. But my patent does include the ability to operate and lock/unlock the garage door from anywhere inside your home or car as well. I haven`t pursued the complete system because the retail on it would be much higher than most people would be willing to pay...I think. There is only one other competitor out there and one other patent that covers a similar device and that patent is very narrow. Between the two patents, they pretty well lock up any type of garage door indicating device. At least that is what I`ve been told by two different attorneys.

I have considered pulling the plug on this, but then I look at the size of this market and the fact that I`ve sold so many without any marketing and that the market remains hugely untapped and wonder if I would be walking away from a tremendous opportunity...



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Richard D. Moss
Dec 17, 2006 12:49 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Just a thought! Connect with some of the big home security companys (ADT, etc.) and work a deal with them. See if they would want to tap into your knowledge and idea, and they can purchase it from you. This way when they are out selling their product, they are pushing yours as well.

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CraigL

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Dec 17, 2006 2:08 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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From what Eric has said, getting a distribution contract with a manufacturer or security product company would be a great way to go. The issue is to have the patents, then spend the time to go to the trade shows and try to convince someone to buy the product. It takes time and money, but the investment is different than simply to plow it back into the business operations.

This actually comes under the heading of what`s your exit strategy for this business? Do you intend to be an inventor, with several inventions on the market? Or do you intend to make this a business that will occupy your time and energy for the next 10 years?
CraigL2006-12-17 2:8:55
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Dec 18, 2006 3:31 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There are a number of reps out there that can help...often being prepared to work for commission alone i.e. if they don`t deliver, they don`t get paid. 

The commissions often range between 1-5% often varying by your stage of business...i.e loads of business, you can push them down...very little business, 5%. It also helps if they are selling into related categories - i.e. the same buyers at the same accounts.

If this product has a novalty value then you should consider the catalog market but the margins are pretty tough.  If not, then consider the hardware channel.  The margins are in the 30% range but the sales cycles are often extremely long and even when the product is accepted, the time to get the product set up and in the various systems and on the shelf can be measured in months.

If this is your only product, that can make it more challenging - one thing you could do is find a similar inventor with products in a related category and co-market each others products.

One more thing - try to secure business with hardware stores which have a centralized distribution network...i.e. a small number of places to ship your product too...Wal*Mart does, Home Depot doesn`t. These types of thing impact your margin!

There is rep that helped me enormously -  I would like to introduce you ...I have reached out to him and asked him to join our advisor site (link below) so you can connect.  I don`t really want to send his numbers and email in this open forum unless I have had an opportunity to discuss it with him.

Andrew
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Rmoss

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Dec 20, 2006 10:34 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Great Suggestions! I really appreciate the help. The question that keeps coming to mind is how could I get my business this far and not have it take off? What am I missing?

I do like the idea of a sales rep, but how do you find one? I looked a little online, but the services I saw cost several hundred dollars a month to try to find someone. That just doesn`t seem like the best use of the meager funds I have available.

My product comes in two styles, a wired version and a wireless. I currently work with some Home Builders, mostly custom builders who use my wired version. I`ve always thought that if I could get in with a big builder, then that would put me over the top. I`ve tried to contact them, but the bigger builders have layers of hard core gate keepers. So I have been getting dealers to carry my product, since they already have their foot in the door with the builders. They are willing to install the device if they are asked, but I haven`t found one yet that is willing to try to sell a builder on the device.

Thanks again for all of your help.



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CraigL

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Dec 20, 2006 11:56 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Y`know, when I was a kid I got a small allowance. As I got to around 10, I figured I could up the income. One day I actually made my bed, then went to my mom and told her, asking if I could get a raise. She said, no, that to make my bed was expected of me. It was part of everyday chores, not something special or outstanding or "extra" work.

Before I connect this, there`s another concept to keep clear. Suppose you go to the store to buy a chicken for dinner, in a blizzard, 20 minutes before the store closes, while you have the flu, in the middle of a divorce. :-) Just because you make it to the store, that doesn`t mean the store will absolutely have any chickens on the shelves.

The point:
Be careful of what you mean when you say, "how could I get my business this far and not have it take off? What am I missing?


I understand the context, but strange as it may seem, sometimes the way we think about a problem is what`s also causing the problem; or at least the inability to see the solution clearly.

Why is it important to believe that "because" you`ve done this and that, "therefore" the business should become a success?
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