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rodrigo212

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Aug 07, 2008 11:30 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Having left some major brand-apparel companies designing graphic t-shirts and then gaining 3 years experience in marketing within the same corporation, I`m now almost 2 years into my own business, working at it, all along as a hobby.

Now I have taken the leap to do it full-time. I`ve done the research. I`m jumping in.

I am developing a line of tees for a specific market (to be sold at event shows) with the hopes of selling wholesale to major retailers in the future (at trade shows) once I get my feet wet.

As I work with designers and illustrators, I have to change hats and also work with vendors, manufacturers, and production people, not to mention, trying to build a solid relationship with my accountant and lawyer. All important as I have learned.

I have gone overseas to do manufacturing research, and have decided that at this point, it is best to work domestically thru a middle man. Working overseas, also means volume minimums on your orders to make shipping cost-effective. I`m thinking the key is to keep it simple.

Any other advice when working with overseas manufacturers?

There are issues of employing minors, language barrier and quality control....but if I trust my US middle-man....is this enough?

What are the pros and cons of manufacturing product solely in the US?  I`m all for "MADE IN THE USA", but the bottom line: Consumers are still looking for bargains.

Any information from more seasoned entreprenuers much appreciated.

rodrigo

rodrigo2128/7/2008 2:03 PM
Aug 07, 2008 11:58 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I know you have some background in the industry but I urge you to visit Fashion-Incubator. There`s over 1400 entries on the ins and outs of starting and running a clothing line.Coincidentally enough, I`m almost done writing an 8 part series on a recent sourcing trip I took to Colombia last week. Based on what I`ve found, you may be better off going there yourself; minimums are MUCH lower than with middlemen because the contractor doesn`t need to build in the margins to cover sourcing fees. Although not required, it`d help if you spoke Spanish.


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dothingsright

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Do you have any advice/resources similar to that of Fashion-Incubator for the gifts industry? Although we will be carrying some clothing, much of what we will offer initially will be gifts related. Thanks for your advice and help!
 
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Tyra
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I personally don`t know squat about the gifts industry altho an associate of mine does. She knows a lot about the gift market and attends all the shows. Unfortunately, I can`t give you a referral but if you were a member of our forum, she`s very active there. Her name is Miracle and she`s probably the person I admire most in this business.


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dothingsright

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Aug 07, 2008 11:27 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks. I appreciate it.
tgroup

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Aug 08, 2008 4:25 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey Rodrigo-

My business is similar to yours. In one of my companies, we do "hot market" tees (mostly sports-related) and sell them in the mass market (Wal-Mart, Walgreens, Kroger, Dick`s Sporting Goods, Nordstrom, JCPenney, Target, etc.). We use US-based screen printers for all of our work and it has worked out fantastically for us.

If you are just starting out full time with this I would highly recommend starting with something that you can keep your eye on-even when working with a middleman. I have friends who have jumped immediately into sourcing their products overseas from the onset and in most cases (not always), they regretted it. It sounds like you have plenty of experience in the industry so I`m sure you`re aware of all the little things that can make a HUGE difference in how the final products turn out.

I have extensive experience in working with overseas manufacturers too, but for us, being able to keep a handle on things has made all the difference in the world. Our customers have come to expect a certain level of quality (and on-time delivery) and they know that they`re going to get it every single time. Even for Wal-Mart, it`s about value not just low price.

Good luck to you.
Ron





rodrigo212

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Aug 08, 2008 5:14 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey Ron,

Thanks so much for the input....you can imagine how alone I feel in this and I`m glad to get any comments and feedback. I have a lot of knowledge, but not a lot of hands-on experience with this part.

My former companies had whole departments handling such things. All I did was design the graphics and later on, I learned how to market it.

Now, having to set it all up myself is so daunting. It is ALL about overseeing the garment and screen print details. I have decided to go with my middle-man, but as you say...I will keep my eye on the samples that will ship back and forth. He has convinced me they can do it. I need product by November for 2 shows, one in December and then in January! Yowza!

After my overseas research in China and the Philippines just this summer, I figured out what you have cautioned about here. I`m excited at the possibilities, but have my reservations.

The quality control is just so difficult to manage...you really have to stay on top of things. Seeing some manufacturing facilities (really, converted garages and old warehouses) with my very own eyes...was a wake-up call, even though I have heard a full range of stories, not all bad. They are just set up much different, labor is so cheap, their equipment, if they have it, is not state-of-the-art...and for this reason...the cost is less.

I am pushing through, but I remain open to doing business in my area NY/NJ, or even out-of-state.

Any screen printers out there please let me know.

One question for you, Ron, if you`re inclined.

Do you buy your tees "already made" from a US wholesaler or do you have all your garments (t-shirts) made in the USA as well? This must really add to the cost.

Are they made overseas to your co. specs. and screen printed here in the USA?

That`s a lot of questions....sorry.

I commend you for getting quality products on time to your clients...when I see quality work from overseas...I can appreciate all the logistics that probably transpired to get it here.

Thanks Again for your advice,

Rodrigo

rodrigo2128/8/2008 5:28 PM
tgroup

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Aug 08, 2008 6:32 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey Rodrigo-

Happy to help out. I sent you a PM. Feel free to ask any questions that you`d like-I don`t mind.

Thanks,
Ron

rodrigo212

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Aug 11, 2008 2:57 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for the input, Ron. I`ve already checked into local distributers and reviewing cost and pricing, now I have to connect with a screen printer that`s willing to work with start-ups.

Early this year I met with a t-shirt manuf. and screen printer out of Canada that I used to work with. They are used to large corporate clients and big orders. They`ve set up their own plants in Bangladesh recently. Although, initially I thought they would be perfect to partner up with...their set up costs were beyond my reach. For this reason, I`m researching and trying to establish my own resources. It looks to be more cost-effective, but there are pros and cons to everything.

Best, Rodrigo
rodrigo212

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Chinese Imports Drop Sharply in June
By KRISTI ELLIS

WASHINGTON — A flagging U.S. economy and precipitous decline in consumer demand triggered the largest decline in June of apparel and textile imports from China in seven and a half years. 

U.S. textile and apparel imports from the entire world also fell in June, marking the fourth consecutive month of declines, the Commerce Department said Tuesday. 

The combined drop in imports from China, which fell 11.8 percent to 229 million square meters equivalent in June compared to a year ago, was the largest decline from the world’s largest apparel supplier since February 2001, when textile and apparel imports to the U.S. fell 20.8 percent, according to the Office of Textiles and Apparel, a division of Commerce. 

Overall, the combined volume of apparel and textile imports to the U.S. fell 10 percent in June compared with a year ago, following a 6 percent decline in May, a 0.6 percent drop in April and an 11.4 percent decrease in March. Imports fell by 475 million square meter equivalents in June to 4.25 billion SME. 

“Among a variety of imported consumer goods, apparel was one among many down sharply this month,” said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at Global Insight. 

Imported televisions, VCRs and household goods were also down sharply in June, Gault said. 
“I think it’s an indication that the expectations on the part of retailers for what consumers are going to spend is pretty subdued,” said Gault. “Imports are responding to what the retailers anticipate they are going to be able to sell.” 

“Clearly, consumers have plenty of room to not buy the latest fashions or to make do with last year’s clothes a little while longer,” he said. 

Gault said he expects to see apparel and textile imports continue to slide for at least the next few months based on anecdotal evidence from retailers about the back-to-school season, which he said indicates more “softness.” 

Charles McMillion, president and chief economist of MBG Information Services, said domestic textile producers have also pulled back on imports of raw materials as reflected in the import numbers. 

“Demand is very, very weak and so it is having an impact on both our own domestic production as well as on imports and of course on prices in the textile industry,” said McMillion. “Textile production has been going down for some time at a time when imports were rising. Production is still going down and now imports are starting to slacken and that is reflection of a weak market.” 

Several other countries had significant apparel and textile import declines in June, including Pakistan, which fell 21.7 percent to 229 million SME; Canada, down 31.6 percent to 115 million SME; and Mexico, down 17.1 percent to 231 million SME. 

The significant gains in apparel and textile imports came from just two countries—Honduras and Vietnam. Imports from Honduras soared 22.6 percent to 137 million SME, while imports from Vietnam continued a trend of increases, rising 14.3 percent to 147 million SME. 

The top five apparel suppliers in the past 12 months were once again: China, Vietnam Bangladesh, Honduras and Mexico. China also topped the textile import list, followed by Pakistan, India, Mexico and South Korea.

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