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MrLiquidity

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Sep 05, 2008 11:53 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I own an investment advisory firm as well as a couple other small businesses in the coffee industry (big fan of the caffeine bean).  In my entrepreneurial endeavors which include great successes and miserable bankrupting-type failures; I have learned something that seems obvious...Cash truly is King. The three key words for any entrepreneur are Liquidity, Liquidity, Liquidity.  As a result, I am developing a new financial planning concept and would love some feedback from the folks in this forum.  So here is the question: As an entrepreneur, would you rather place your personal financial planning/retirement money in a place where you cannot touch it at all until you reach that magic age of 59 1/2, such as any retirement account, 401(k), SEP IRA, etc.; or would you choose, if you could, to place your money in a place where it is easily accessible?  In other words, would you prefer to have the ability to easily invest in yourself and your own business as you move through your career, or do you view your financial/retirement plan as a "hands off" safety net that should never be used in your own business and should always remain in the stock market, mutual funds, etc.?  If you are not currently investing in a financial plan because you are just getting started...please tell me what you think you would do if you could save money for the future.  Thanks in advance for the feedback!  Good luck with all of your businesses!


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Brad Fisher
aka Mr. Liquidity
President, Fisher Wealth Management, LLC
Founder, The Entrepreneur`s Dream Financial Plan
bunnerb

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Sep 05, 2008 12:38 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I checked out your site. Rock on!! your ideas are fantastic. Liquidity is the number one issue I have with getting my business to the next level. AKA Cash flow!!

I look forward to seeing what other words of wisdom you have for us. I look forward to doing business with you so that I can have more cash for my business!!

Cheers!
   

MrLiquidity

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Sep 05, 2008 12:59 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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bunnerb,

Thanks for the post, so I assume you prefer to leave money in a liquid place rather than traditional retirement accounts?  What have you been doing with your financial plan thus far?  Not too many details - remember - its a public forum.



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aka Mr. Liquidity
President, Fisher Wealth Management, LLC
Founder, The Entrepreneur`s Dream Financial Plan
RabbitMountain

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Sep 06, 2008 7:14 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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This forum depresses me to no end sometimes. Am I the only person in history to start a business with absolutely no money and no help? Financial planning for retirement... are you kidding??
RabbitMountain9/6/2008 7:19 PM
MrLiquidity

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Sep 06, 2008 11:30 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Rabbit,

Couldn`t agree more.  While money isn`t required to start or run a business, it sure can help!  I find a lot of entrepreneurs packing money into retirement accounts...which in my opinion is a mistake.  I encourage people to save money in more liquid places so that they can invest in their business if they choose.

I`m glad to hear you are having great success!  Keep it up.





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Brad Fisher
aka Mr. Liquidity
President, Fisher Wealth Management, LLC
Founder, The Entrepreneur`s Dream Financial Plan
startupadvice

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Sep 08, 2008 7:12 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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As an enterpreneur, I would keep about 4-6 months of liquidity requirement in an easily accessible manner. Balance could be in hands-off long term investemnts. If you have 4-6 months of liquidity available, you should be able to manage and tap into it for urgencies and then replenish during better times. If you keep all in long term, it is difficult to be an enterpreneur.
bunnerb

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Sep 08, 2008 9:17 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Chicken before the egg, Rabbit.
Of course it would be great to have cash on hand before starting my business. But, then, how do I come up with the cash in the first place?  I am 32. Unless my rich uncle dies and leaves me a grip, I am out of luck. Being an entrepreneur has meant that I have not held a traditional job for more than two years at a time. Credit cards, running lean and a wing and a prayer is all I have built my company on.
Mr. Liquidity; up to now I have been bouncing my ever increasing debt across three or four credit cards with 0% deals. That has got to stop, however, now that "real life" (ie; kids) has taken hold of my once bright future. I have a few meager stocks given to me at graduation, but those sit idly by waiting to hiccup into double digits. And when that day finally comes, I might be able to afford a new monitor for my computer.
Until then, I guess there is always the lottery.


RabbitMountain

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Sep 08, 2008 10:24 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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bunnerb, that makes me feel less like a freak actually, thanks for sharing that info. I sometimes feel like I`m the only one who doesn`t have millions of dollars lying around to play with, who worries whether food will be an option next week. Makes me wonder how any properly capitalized startup can possibly fail unless it`s obviously stupid.
RabbitMountain9/8/2008 10:34 AM
bunnerb

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Sep 08, 2008 10:34 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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i agree, but remember that a surprising percentage of companies that go under, regardless of the financial backing, go under because of bad management. Entrepreneurs are great at starting a business, but lousy at the follow-through...  if we don`t bring in a good manager at the right time, all our efforts could be wasted. but, in the meantime, hopefully we can bankroll some of our success into one of mr. liquidity`s financial engines... right mr. l?


robertj

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Sep 08, 2008 12:16 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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This forum depresses me to no end sometimes. Am I the only person in history to start a business with absolutely no money and no help? Financial planning for retirement... are you kidding??

Paula,

There are many people who start a business little or no capital and no help. Many that I`ve met seem to revel in the "I can do it all by myself" concept. Some have managed to survive, both personally and in their business.

 I commend you for your spirit and tenacity. However, I wouldn`t advise anyone that this was the best way to go - especially if there are alternatives.



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Home of the Scalable Business Plan and QuikStart Capital Programs
http://www.bizgrowthmasters.com
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