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DaleKing

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Aug 18, 2007 9:18 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Last June I submitted my website to DMOZ. My site was never added to the directory, so a few months ago, I decided to do some investigating. This is what I discovered:

1. I talked to two DMOZ volunteer editors and was told that it can take up to two years or more to get a web site approved and listed on DMOZ.

2. Many qualified web sites are rejected simply because the category editor considers them competition to his or her own site.

3. It`s standard practice that if you e-mail DMOZ about the status of your web site, you will not receive a courtesy response to your e-mail.

4. A DMOZ editor told me that some category editors even fight among themselves to have their own web sites listed ahead of other submissions.

5. With thousands and thousands of web sites in the pipeline waiting to be approved and listed, there`s no way that understaffed and overworked DMOZ editors can possibly catch up.
Its been several months since I last communicated with a DMOZ editor. Do you have any new information about DMOZ?

Have any of you tried to submit your website to DMOZ? What was your experience?

Personally, after everything I`ve learned, I no longer consider DMOZ relevant anymore. Do you?

Dale King
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Aug 18, 2007 6:50 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I agree.

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I used to submit to them, but after awhile I figured it wasn`t worth it. I had even joined their public forums in hopes of getting some insight as to how they operate, and get some advice on what to do to get listed.

I realize that they are volunteers, but often their attitudes were incredibly negative. "We do what we want, when we want, for who we want" seemed pretty common. I came to realize that, as far behind as they were in reviewing submissions, there was no way in the world that their directory could be considered up to date.

I don`t even think of them anymore, or consider even using the directory to find anything I might be looking for.



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nhgnikole

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Aug 19, 2007 5:19 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I think it`s still worth a few minutes to try to get into the directory. I do have a few sites in there.

The reasons are this:
1 Google counts your site to be much higher because you were hand-selected.
2) There are a lot of small engines that use DMOZ info.

Considering those, even if you don`t get in, it`s worth applying.
bert

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The issues with DMOZ seem to even go much further.  A few years back there was a company that actually tried to use our trademarked company name for their product and they were friends with the people at DMOZ.  After legal intervention with the company, they agreed to pull the use of our name but DMOZ to this day blocks listing requests from our company.  Even with all this, we still keep trying knowing they have value.  I feel all search engines should be unbiased to be useful for end users, our experiences make me feel like it is not the case with DMOZ.  I hope I am wrong that is why we keep trying.  I agree is Nikole though, don`t give up and good luck with them.

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DaleKing

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The issues with DMOZ seem to even go much further.  A few years back there was a company that actually tried to use our trademarked company name for their product and they were friends with the people at DMOZ.  After legal intervention with the company, they agreed to pull the use of our name but DMOZ to this day blocks listing requests from our company.  Even with all this, we still keep trying knowing they have value.  I feel all search engines should be unbiased to be useful for end users, our experiences make me feel like it is not the case with DMOZ.  I hope I am wrong that is why we keep trying.  I agree is Nikole though, don`t give up and good luck with them.

Your story is all the more reason I refuse to waste anymore time on DMOZ. I don`t need that kind of aggravation. I`d rather pay Yahoo $299 every year.

Dale King

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bert

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Aug 20, 2007 3:22 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Even though the male in me says you are right.  The businessman in me says you should try anyway as you have nothing to lose and some potential gain.  At least it doesn`t cost you any money...



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DaleKing

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Aug 20, 2007 3:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Even though the male in me says you are right.  The businessman in me says you should try anyway as you have nothing to lose and some potential gain.  At least it doesn`t cost you any money...

Who cares about the money? It`s three hundred lousy bucks!

Besides the businessman in me says Yahoo`s directory is far more respected than DMOZ these days. I`m through with DMOZ!!!

Dale King

 

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I would do both.  The more you can spread the word the better, and who knows you might have better luck with them than we did.  Nikole is right about the Google and small search engine kick too...

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DaleKing

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Aug 20, 2007 9:50 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I would do both.  The more you can spread the word the better, and who knows you might have better luck with them than we did.  Nikole is right about the Google and small search engine kick too...

You do things your way, and I`ll do things my way.

Dale King



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